Windows Legacy Server - windows-vista-old-channel

Ximonite 20/04/2021 23:17

i will upload my extended kernel stuff i have again like the last time soon enough

‎ Vista_Style_Builder provided by Scamdisk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cxq0eNz9sCTpvpxCjkCKYjOgqVHvSjZ5/view?usp=sharing (edited)

Windows LongVista server: https://discord.gg/TwFWwxUcSv

MassClaw

‎ Vista_Style_Builder provided by Scamdisk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cxq0eNz9sCTpvpxCjkCKYjOgqVHvSjZ5/view?usp=sharing (edited)

Thanks for this

Np.

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 21/04/2021 01:02

hmm is there a vista iso with usb drivers for ryzen

Good luck using Vista on ryzen

I believe not? unfortunately it's really hard. (edited)

You'll get numerous bugchecks

01:13

Wait for fixed hal

WinDVD

hmm is there a vista iso with usb drivers for ryzen

What board and BIOS?

wr3n

What board and BIOS?

ASRock B450/ac and BIOS 1.90 but i can downgrade as far as the 3000 cpu support bios

i assume thats bad

You could try it, more testers is better

the max is like

01:32

2000 series with an old ass bios

01:32

from what i've seen

01:33

i have a new bios so instantaneous 1E bsod

i mean vista used to bsod on my sandy bridge unless i went into debug mode

01:33

hmm

01:33

well i should try it

01:33

how would i get mouse and keyboard to work

Yeah, something unexpected may happen

01:34

Use Scamdisk's ISO, with a PS/2 keyboard, set it up, then use device manager to install universal USB 3 drivers from MDL

i dont have a PS/2 port

Uhh shit

what

the IO i have is pretty barebones

PS/2 emulation in BIOS?

i didnt see that

01:35

the bios kinda sucks imo

Do you have a PCI-E USB 2.0 card?

i liked the default lenovo onme

01:35

i have an old PCI sata and ide card

01:35

but no PCI slot so that wont work anyway

Ah fuck

01:36

@win32 Help

r3ns iso did support my usb3 keyboard and mouse

which iso

It's one I deleted long ago, and it doesn't work in the boot.wim

hmm

wait

did anyone ever try the boot.wim known to contain signed usb 3.0 drivers?

oh were talking about vista

01:37

i was talking about 7 above mb

yeah i have 7 installed already on a second partition

01:38

it works well

01:39

if i could get vista running on ryzen 3000 it would be pog

01:39

wait

01:39

does the RX 480 have vista compatible drivers

WinDVD

if i could get vista running on ryzen 3000 it would be pog

you would be able to get windows xp nt 5.1 before vista on ryzen 3000

01:39

iirc it's been done on ryzen 5000

01:39

vista... it's known to work on old bioses and ryzen 1000 and 2000

WinDVD

does the RX 480 have vista compatible drivers

not at fucking all

01:39

amd has stopped supporting vista...

its probably cause less people are interested in vista

quite a while back

WinDVD

its probably cause less people are interested in vista

no

01:40

it's because the hardware doesn't support it

can you use the windows 7 drivers?

and xp is easier to get working

01:40

no

01:40

you can't

i know windows 8.1 can use the 7 drivers but thats not really the same

that's not the same at all

01:40

that's backwards compatibility

its looking like im doomed here

01:41

i do have an older GT 1030

01:41

but i dont have the full height bracket anymore

gt 1030 is also too new

i know the GTX 1050ti works

01:41

on vista

yes pascal works... subpar

hmm

01:42

i dont really have anything else

01:42

i have a haswell laptop

your absolute best bet would be GTX 9xx (edited)

01:42

but knowing prices

WinDVD

i have a haswell laptop

you know the drill with vista on haswell

would a GTX 950 work?

yes

01:42

yes it would

hmm

that has native support for vista and xp

YIKES

01:43

forgot the gpu market is dead

exactly

im glad i got this RX 480 when i did or id have no GPU rn

01:43

lol

01:44

hmm

01:44

what about an old Fermi card

prices were already gouged to shit when the quarantine started

WinDVD

what about an old Fermi card

anything gtx 9xx and older should work

01:44

a GT710 works on vista i believe

Now this is more my style lol

01:45

is that high for a 460

it's a gtx 460....

01:45

yikes

i wont use it for gaming

thermi

atleast not modern gaming

01:45

yes

if anthing go for a gt 6xx

hmm

you mean gtx right?

yes

01:45

key switches failing so i have to smash them

oh

01:46

the gt 600 is uhh

01:46

interesting

gtx 6xx (edited)

01:46

not gt 600

01:46

look for a GTX 670

01:46

or something

but they are so inflated rn

01:46

thats a 650 ti

01:47

wtf

WinDVD

wtf

christ

Just get a 460

01:48

Or if you really need something somewhat new but cheap, a 740

WinDVD

wtf

Damn, at this point you can have that Xe graphics in intel chips.

you could make a wholeass pc lmao

i was able to find a gtx 670 for like 90 bucks shipping included earlier this year

01:54

but at that price, not anymore

01:54

it can perform as good as a gtx 960 so it wasn't a bad deal

wow the 460 really isnt that bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfr6Sh9tfMI

zWORMz Gaming

GTX 460 | Mid Range GPU...from 2010!

how old is the gtx 9800 again

i think late 2000s

01:55

maybe 2008 (?)

01:55

i dont remember

Windows Vista wallpaper pack by MadEvening: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xPhUnejy8d2z3rle15Wo5rkWky2dTMi7/view?usp=sharing

Windows Vista Wallpaper Pack.zip

Repost again

Looks really nice

08:36

I guess it can run in any languages

Ofc it can

by any chance

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does anyone have the

14:43

windows DreamScenes

14:43

mp4s

i think there are on archive.org

Deleted User

i think there are on archive.org

ok

also they aren't mp4s its on mpg format

Deleted User

also they aren't mp4s its on mpg format

i think thats fine

Oh I main vista

15:07

I can extract em for you

i was uploading them but my windows 10 fucking crashed

lodocus

i was uploading them but my windows 10 fucking crashed

great

@MassClaw can you remove the (old) in longvista? Thx

Ah sure, someone wanted it before so pinned it.

ye i saw

20:17

I meant the (old)

Don- oh.

Not the whole message

20:17

Pin the discord server

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And vista builder

MassClaw

‎ Vista_Style_Builder provided by Scamdisk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cxq0eNz9sCTpvpxCjkCKYjOgqVHvSjZ5/view?usp=sharing (edited)

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Deleted User

Windows LongVista server: https://discord.gg/TwFWwxUcSv

.

does anyone still have the updated vista iso?

08:43

stock updated

One sec.

modifying this part is annoying

@Mintel do you still have the gdrive link of that updated stock vista iso?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

WindowsVistax64Uptodate.iso

14:27

Doesnt include the 6003 updates or the runtimes

thanks a lot

modifying this part is annoying

Definitely is, touching the shell in any way is annoying. FIrst provided by mintel: (edited)

Vista_SHA2_WUC.7z

2.62 MB

my vista folder has required updates in it too but there is no os in my vista rig

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so cant upload those for now (edited)

Fuck

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I need widevine so bad

recent chromium versions should work

Huh?

04:52

For real?

04:53

Mine is 89. guess I'm downloading 91

a few weeks ago i was watching shows from cable in ungoogled chromium 91.

Damn wow..lemme see

04:54

Unless you're using newer exkernel as you are on the canary channel of exkernel yow

my main partition doesn't actually have the newer ntdll yet

ungoogled chromium 91

Which fork? that doesn't exist, not that i'm aware of at least. (edited)

Fine, nothing should go wrong then

Yeah just get ungoogled 90, it has widevine, or hibiiki.

Hibiiki's the author

Of a normal modified chromium, yeah.

my bad: i meant Advanced Chrome 91.0.4435.0

Holy shit it works!

05:04

Acting real weird though

Which fork?

my bad: i meant Advanced Chrome 91.0.4435.0

Weird, first time i heard advanced going that far. And Hibbiki? yes it works like a charm. (edited)

90 ungoogled

Nice. Which part about it is weird though? (edited)

Skips 5-10 songs, starts playing one for some time then does that again (edited)

05:05

Lol

What. Weird. (edited)

This is annoying

05:06

Maybe try advanced chrome

Sure enough then.

Mkay...seems to have stopped

05:14

Never fuckin mind

Come back with full force, i think it's probably blocking something. Make sure it doesn't block third party cookies. (edited)

Third party cookies.....now that's a reason

You see this eye showing up in the URL bar? that's the thing that tells you if it blocks them or not. (edited)

recent chrome should work aswell,if u copy the files from program files in windows 7

08:08

for brave its the same process

08:08

for firefox u have to extract the exe and u got the install

08:09

tho i think u have to edit the exe for browser,cant show u how

Deleted User

for firefox u have to extract the exe and u got the install

You can download a standalone installer for Chrome and then extract chrome.7z too

wait really?

18:24

lemme check (edited)

18:27

nah cant find it atm

18:27

its fine

18:27

i trust u

@win32 just wondering does server 2008 r1 have the same hal issues as vista has on modern hardware

yes

recent chrome should work aswell,if u copy the files from program files in windows 7

Yes, after installation.

thats what did i mean

09:14

but yeah

Last version of Firefox Nightly 53.0a1 to work on vanilla Vista/Server 2008 is the 2016-12-21 release, anything beyond that will throw a not a valid win32 application error (edited)

thats a pe header thing

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

windows DreamScenes

Dude I frickin forgot about you

18:01

Do you still need em?

Audi81

Do you still need em?

yes

Unfortunately i lost sight of the site for a collection of them.

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

yes

Okay, packing them up

Nice, thanks for that. (edited)

:)

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

yes

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ivjw1jtdguthuuv/Windows_DreamScene.zip/file

Thanks, immensely appreciated.

Pin this because dreamscene wallpapers are a challenge to find nowadays

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Wait

16:15

You aren't a mod?

Yes.

Demoted?

No, that was intentional on my part.

Hm

16:16

Why would ya not want mod? :D

I was certainly unsatisfied with me having mod and not doing anything.

Understandable

16:21

Have it to pin my messages at least ha

Audi81

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ivjw1jtdguthuuv/Windows_DreamScene.zip/file

Idk why but creative's sound driver loves to hang windows to shutdown

it says its removed, but the entry never disappeared from the programs list

21:58

if a program was uninstalled, the entry would disappear, but not for this

21:59

fuck you .net framework 4.8

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and .net 3.5 setup fails

22:02

it says error 1603 but whats the explanation?????

Btw PCem works in Vista

they have drivers for DOS... but not for vista... oh and windows 10 and 7

try finding the readme for them

04:39

and read it, it may be saying for other devices except yours\

interesting. tinker editor's uses a different branding

level editor

10:42

prepare for dust 2 on tinker

uh oh

if there is a way to find that branding

Chrome 50 on vanilla Vista

ImSwordQueen

if there is a way to find that branding

i think you have to use resource hacker on it

00:20

but right which file is it though

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

Chrome 50 on vanilla Vista

Aero window?

no aero window

00:32

just the same theme as chrome on xp (edited)

Ah

00:32

Sad

00:33

That was the reason I wanted to try 50 on vista

00:35

Man I wish I could use Chrome 40 UI with Chromium 90 backend. That'd be cool after but... that's only dreams (edited)

I wish it was like that too.

for a short bit you could change back to chrome 40 ui in chrome://flags

02:58

they took that out tho

Yeah, after 70 i believe. (edited)

How did it happen?

05:03

Or was the issue present in SP0?

dunno lol

Chrome 51 doesnt load websites, 52 onwards straight up doesnt work

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on vanilla vista

had no idea about this lmao. and the product version is 6.0.6002.18005 so sp2 is there

i'm confused on how vmware crashed

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i thought it was virtualbox

09:59

welp fuck

Audi81

Man I wish I could use Chrome 40 UI with Chromium 90 backend. That'd be cool after but... that's only dreams (edited)

^

ImSwordQueen

welp fuck

when oof

WinDVD

Click to see attachment 🖼️

if you try to run it on dell inspiron 530 with vista rtm on it,it is actually going run fine (edited)

ok

prob good driver compatability

i dont own an inspiron

10:04

i have an old dell with a bad psu but thats about it

ok

10:04

im just saying that you CAN run solitare on vista rtm

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you just need nice hardvare for it

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that is from action retro server

it's not that solitare is the fault

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it's bad drivers that are at fault

thats what am i talking about

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thats why i say it works on inspiron 530

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dell made great driver compatability for inspiron 530

except creative

10:18

creative sucks

also intel drivers on windows suck as well

10:19

especially igpu (edited)

Mintel

also intel drivers on windows suck as well

ik

on 8.1 it shuts down like normal

10:19

on vista it needs 10 minutes

Mintel

especially igpu (edited)

Had to buy dedicated gpu cuz of that.

ImSwordQueen

on 8.1 it shuts down like normal

not really

10:20

the screen just blacks out

10:20

also shutdown takes a lot on 7 aswell

intel igpus fair way better on linux however

whatever you say

10:21

thats still nothing because i cant play games on linux without steam

10:21

or a legit game on play on linux

with creative drivers?

10:22

it's not a problem for me

he meant intel igpu

oh

10:23

i meant the creative drivers

10:23

on my hp g62 didn't had a problem

10:23

probably i'm lucky

I use my trusty usb thingy for sound (edited)

10:24

works like a charm

10:25

unlike my integrated sound

im glad realtek made audio drivers for vista until 2017

i waste like hours to find a driver for that on windows 10

10:26

unlike my usb thingy that is just plug and play on even xp (edited)

realtek is always good with supporting oses for a long time

10:28

afaik they still update their card reader drivers for xp and made ethernet drivers for 2k until 2019

when old and new collides

i miss the old chrome skin

ah yes.

13:36

the lazy port

Where can I get that port, if you don't mind telling me

Vista root updates(?) presumably: https://www.mediafire.com/file/rpjldy94whceow9/Windows_Vista_RootUpdates.rar/file (edited)

chrome 52 doesnt launch due to this

Isotope of chromium? cool

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

chrome 52 doesnt launch due to this

Works perfectly on my side tho

i guess it was 32 bit

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32 bit kernel32 doesnt have PowerCreateRequest function

i used the slimjet repack, but powercreaterequest problem prevented chrome 52 from launching (edited)

wait

14:46

why doesn't it have aero

Same frickin question

14:46

I'll try app verifier

google decided to do a fuck you to vista users and made chrome launch in basic even with aero on

i know

14:47

but i thought 52 removed that

14:47

or after 50

Mintel

google decided to do a fuck you to vista users and made chrome launch in basic even with aero on

But that's 52. Which wasnt supposed to work on vista

wat (chrome 54 doesnt work) (edited)

i meant they did it before that

reinstall the extended kernel

was it in 3x or 4x versions

mostly 4x

14:48

3x still has aero

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

wat (chrome 54 doesnt work) (edited)

Yea, straight up dies

53 has basic theme again (edited)

Seems to be a dep related error, but not sure

53 was the first version to use material design

yea it's after 41-ish (edited)

14:54

41.0.2245.0

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

wat (chrome 54 doesnt work) (edited)

also affected is versions 55, 56 and 57 (56 throws application error after closing bex64 error window, same with 57) (edited)

15:06

58 onwards has an unextractable "102~" file (edited)

i like how newer chrome still has the XP/Vista error

Weird that they acknowledge it lol

if they acknowledge it then how tf are yall getting it to run xD

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shouldn't they patch it or smth

The verification process is often simple in that period.

either leftover code they forgot to remove or its intentional cuz well they know people are gonna try to get it working on those

Notepad++ decided to straight up update lol

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On vista

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Even if it claimed 7.9.2 was the last supported version

does the newest version actually work tho

Just updated

18:00

Smooth as butter

18:00

Audi81

Even if it claimed 7.9.2 was the last supported version

maybe its xp only

They did mention Vista

18:06

Wait they didnt

Damn.

Thank god

good

18:33

at least they didnt throw xp in the bin just like that

18:34

they offred you the last version that runs on xp

Deleted User

they offred you the last version that runs on xp

its like QEMU, i think the latest version still runs on Vista

good

same goes to PCem

wait what

Yes it goes out of control sometimes.

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

wait what

happens to me aswell

13:36

i think that appears no matter what

and i crashed my vista just by launching a vm in vpc2007

oof

heres the vhd file in which my vista crashed (for VPC2007)

cursed_vhd.zip

4.96 MB

at least the cursed vhd doesnt crash my computer with virtualbox on WS2022, unlike VPC2007 on Vista, instead it displays this (edited)

19:51

i cant show this VHD after boot on VPC cuz after boot, instant bsod on vista (edited)

oof

how do you even get vista on ryzen working ive tried everything at this point

u can get xp on ryzen lol (edited)

yeah but vista gang

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might end up having to tho

cool

is there a guide for the xp one

i have vista on my seperate drive atm

if i cant do vista ill do xp

there is a guide how to install 7

does it apply to xp too?

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i dont think the drivers would work on 7

xp only has a vid running it

sounds a lot like vista

21:24

vista doesnt seem to have a good guide only videos running it

vid is in russian but has english subtitles (edited)

21:25

that for 7

hmm

tho idk if its gonna work for vista

21:28

im not gonna post the vid (edited)

i know you cant slipstream the drivers on vista

vlite?

and even if you could im getting a BSOD on already installed vista and the boot media

Deleted User

vlite?

no they dont work in the installers

oh

21:29

oof

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL bsod no matter what i do

21:29

so rip

Damn.

My whole thing is vice versa. My main Laptop has a CPU which can run Vista but doesn't have GPU driver's. My main PC has a supported GPU for Vista but it runs on a Ryzen 5 2600.

WinDVD

how do you even get vista on ryzen working ive tried everything at this point

I've gotten Vista to work on my Ryzen 3600, with no drivers of course.

How

The same way I did with 7, install it with the DVD.

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It was mostly pretty useless because I had no video drivers or working USB ports. I had only a PS/2 mouse to rely on.

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I did get Vista working on my PC with most things working (graphics and ethernet/wifi are exceptions, I do have graphic drivers I want to try)

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but it is a bit unfair to say - it worked on a Haswell i7

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not an AMD

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In fact... since I have time, I'm gonna install Vista (with extkernel of course) and try some graphics drivers that @WinDVD helped me find

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not gonna make a lot of screenshots, everyone here knows (I think) how Vista is installed

So, do you have any stability issues?

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What board and BIOS?

14:28

@Deleted User

MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

Nibba how

I can't remember the bios, all I know is I had to upgrade it for my CPU to work.

What the fuck

14:30

When did you update it?

Nearly a year ago when I built my PC

How

14:30

How the fuck

It has a bios button, which allows the bios to be updated without a CPU or RAM

No, how the fuck is Vista working

I just installed it via DVD

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And it worked

wr3n

No, how the fuck is Vista working

at the same time, why would it not work?

https://msfn.org/board/topic/180750-would-an-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-work-on-windows-vista/page/3/

Would an amd ryzen 7 1800x work on Windows Vista?

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Actually go to page 2

The only thing that did work on Vista was sound drivers.

14:37

They got picked up automatically (edited)

The default drivers don't work?

wdym

The default Windows HD audio driver didn't work?

I think it was a realtek driver

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idk for sure tho

14:42

I didn't get any BSODs when installing Vista

14:42

I doubt an Intel HD 4000 driver that was meant for Ivy Bridge is gonna work for Haswell

15:21

What the heck?

Extract the .wim

Do I literally extract the WIM into the partition and boot from it?

Yeah

16:30

Okey dokey, just like you said

Uhh

16:31

I meant with DISM

16:31

Or ImageX

Why didn't you say that?

16:33

I don't even know how to use DISM

16:34

How do you do that?

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You know what, I give up

16:39

I've tried installing Vista through USB today multiple times

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and it didn't work

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I don't have an idea why

Nor do i either.

Use GImageX I guess it is name of utility with GUI.

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It is

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Thanks

16:59

I think I've done this correctly

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if F is the desired drive then everything is alright.

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Yeah, it is

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67%

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80%

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17:17

17:19

17:20

Did MS assume everyone would install Windows on C:/

i mean probably windows thinks it's the c:/ drive

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Windows doesn't think!

how did you installed it anyway

Imaged the WIM

i think that's a problem

I thought it was too good to be true

i was going to tell you to try wintohdd but that's paid software so

there is a free version

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but it doesn't let you reinstall windows with an iso

17:24

wait nvm

17:24

it doesn't let you install windows on a second hdd my bad

Is this really where you get it from?

17:24

yeah

17:24

it's the same company which made wintoUSB

wait

17:26

probably it does let you actually

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oh shit it does

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i thought it didn't

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that's a bruh moment

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For non-commercial use only

i know but i remember complaining about something

also i noticed that with vista installed that way wallpapers act strange

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What?!

idk if it was my iso

17:28

probably it was

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you can try

17:29

This makes me worry

vista supports UEFI technically

No, not that

17:29

I want it on a partition

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not on the whole drive

it's not going to the whole drive

Uh oh!

you have to partition your drive first tho

17:30

Oh good lord.

17:30

My icons disappeared

17:30

Yup, I'm screwed

tf

17:30

how did they dissapear

Explorer crashed

17:30

Yup, my Windows 7 install is going away

17:30

Shit

wtf it should let you select the drive first

17:31

Some data is gone, mostly school stuff

i hope it wasn't important stuff

It kind of was

that's bullshit

17:32

it should let you choose the drive first

Yeah, it should've

17:32

but it didn't

idea

17:33

do you have hiren boot pe?

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make the format stop

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and go into hiren boot pe and try recover the files

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before copy the wintohdd installer

17:34

are you still here?

I am, I am

ImSwordQueen

do you have hiren boot pe?

I don't

do you have a second computer

I do, luckily

can you make the setup stop

17:34

so it doesn't delete more data

Task Manager was wiped

https://www.hirensbootcd.org/

admin

Homepage

17:35

wait

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do you have a spare usb drive right?

17:36

I unplugged it forcefully at this point

you did the right thing

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i'm sorry for that

17:36

that's a shitty move

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if you can somehow make an hiren boot cd pe usb/dvd do it right now

17:37

it should have some data recovery tools

17:38

A literal Windows destruction.

that's literally bad design

Absolutely

it doesn't happen on legacy systems so i'm sorry for that

I was worried for a reason (edited)

you should try getting hiren boot pe to try getting some of the important stuff back

I'm doing that rn

i hope you can get some data back

I did immediately think of Recuva and stuff

yea hiren has recuva

I remember Hiren's Boot CD

cd doesn't have recuva i think

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tbh idk

Oh, so there are CD and PE versions

PE is the 10 based one

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CD is the XP based one

17:45

you have more luck with the 10 one than the XP one

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yeah CD has recuva but it's an older version

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so you are better off using PE

Alrighty

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BTW, I am fairly calm

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The school documents are mostly MS Word documents, I hope I can get those at least

losing stuff sucks

17:48

i lost a valuable mc acc because i fucked up my os

17:48

not fun stuff

I lost an entire OS with some personal stuff

17:49

I wasn't planning to move from 7 for some time

17:49

Okay, this secondary laptop is a bit slow

17:50

1292MB, oh my gosh

1292MB of what?

17:50

iso?

The ISO

yikes

749 KB

17:51

that's not that bad

17:51

i'm downloading with far worse

Oh my.

i hope GMM makes an alternative link for garibaldi

17:53

because downloading stuff from the archive it's impossible

This day just became weird - My cat just sat on this laptop

17:57

okay, so

18:00

I guess the creators of WinToHDD didn't think that people might want to install Windows on a partition, rather on a whole HDD

18:00

I guess they didn't think enough

18:01

only on EUFI capable systems*

18:02

on legacy systems it doesn't do that

I had it on a Legacy/BIOS system

18:02

and I even selected that option!

eufi capable

It's my fault anyway

18:03

not the software's fault then

18:08

Okay, I guess I'm gonna on what OS I'm gonna install after I try the recovery

18:08

7, 8, 8.1 or 10

18:09

I might as well knock off 10

18:09

8.1 is better than 8.0 because more stuff works with it

18:09

Windows 7 is still 100% usable

8.0 is weird

How about Linux... Ubuntu could be my viable choice if only some of my stuff worked on it (After Effects, Premiere Pro, etc)

18:10

Wine simply can't do that

18:12

Mac OS X... a lot of my stuff works but I lost the ISO for iatkos.

18:12

+ Snow Leopard is 2021 isn't that viable

Deleted User

How about Linux... Ubuntu could be my viable choice if only some of my stuff worked on it (After Effects, Premiere Pro, etc)

When I used Linux I would just dedicate 8GB Of Ram and half of my Cores to a Windows 10 VM which already had Adobe Applications installed. So I would just fire it up once I needed to edit something, but that is pretty inconvenient.

Yeah, very inconvenient.

18:14

Wouldn't run as well...

18:15

QEMU?

18:15

Does that truly use the power of a CPU or?

18:16

18:18

Not so nice.

18:58

19:03

Okay, it's ready!

19:03

Wish me luck!

19:07

19:13

Oh wow!

@Deleted User found something?

about 478000 files for now (edited)

Deleted User

I've gotten Vista to work on my Ryzen 3600, with no drivers of course.

what is your AGESA version, You can find it in CPUZ in the mainboard section

my agesa version is somewhere in the 54xx

19:52

or something

it should look like this

19:54

or some other number

hmm

20:31

interesting

mine does an 1E bsod

20:32

instantly

yeah mine did that with latest bios

20:33

but with 1.00 bios it just does IRQL_not_less_or_equal (its not like its that old it came out in mid 2019 for ryzen 3000 cpus)

OH CRAP

20:56

I UPDATED TO BIOS 1.20 (1 up from 1.00) AND IT BOOTED INTO SETUP

20:56

vista on ryzen time maybe!?

YES

22:27

if mouse n keyboard does not work,use ps2 ones

Deleted User

if mouse n keyboard does not work,use ps2 ones

yeah looking like im not going to be able to install this because of that

22:36

my mobo doesnt have a PS/2 port

22:37

and ps/2 port PCIE card are expensive

22:37

so RIP

WinDVD

what is your AGESA version, You can find it in CPUZ in the mainboard section

hmm

22:54

thats the exact agesa version that fixed my issues

22:54

interesting

22:54

too bad i dont have a PS/2 port

huh

23:25

odd

WinDVD

too bad i dont have a PS/2 port

i have that exact agesa version

23:25

(and ps2 ports)

try AGESA 1.0.0.3 if 1.0.0.4 doesnt work

23:25

im legit thinking about getting a new mobo

23:26

mainly cause the one i have has issues and a terrible bios

23:26

i can say for sure im going to avoid ASRock for my next motherboard lol

no i'm not downgrading my bios

fair enough

it's a risk that's not worth taking

i always have my PC on battery backup so its not a huge risk for me

not that

23:48

i don't like messing with bios

WinDVD

i can say for sure im going to avoid ASRock for my next motherboard lol

I was gunna get an ASRock board, but they didn't upgrade the bios when sent, so I refunded it and got an MSI B450 Tomohawk max

02:52

I made sure that thing had a way of upgrading the bios without me being fucked

this is my motherboard i guess

Since AM4 stuff do kinda work on Vista from what I have seen, let's see if (sh)intel socket 1200 works (edited)

09:52

In case at some point I'll buy an 11400f, dualbooting 10 and vista would be pog

WinDVD

my mobo doesnt have a PS/2 port

What if you try installing one with extended kernel,it has most of the updates already integrated,or deploying the vista image using windows 10 pe

serjG

Since AM4 stuff do kinda work on Vista from what I have seen, let's see if (sh)intel socket 1200 works (edited)

iirc it has the same issues haswell does

Deleted User

What if you try installing one with extended kernel,it has most of the updates already integrated,or deploying the vista image using windows 10 pe

i dunno

WinDVD

iirc it has the same issues haswell does

Ok

21:01

Which version of Vista looks better?

21:02

(old screenshots of mine)

The former... man the early designs. SO GOOD!

21:05

I'm willing to install Windows 5219 on a very old FX 5500 pc and try running HL2 beta on it, for fun

both are hot on their own

I'm confident it has LDDM for 5500

first one looks better

21:12

IN MY OPINION

Definitely, the finish on the first one is premium to say the least.

i like rtm

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i like the window borders and the explorer window of the beta but prefer Release vista's taskbar

can't wait to install vista on another computer when new extended kernel update drops...

true

03:40

i will do the same lol

All I need is Adobe Software from NT 6.1 to work on Vista and I'm switching over. Might be a bit complicated to install with a Ryzen CPU though.

can the AGESA be downgraded on ryzen?

found this

09:38

cool but why

isn't that windows 8

just Vista RTM on hardware it came on

10:44

with legal license

what?

10:51

you got new pc or something?

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I've finally gotten around to looking at this, and I'm confused

11:07

for most of the time I spent trying to get Vista running, I was on v2D, which never worked, it also has AGESA 1.0.0.4, and is a few days newer than your BIOS

11:07

Few=6

I would like you to grab this bios, flash it, and tell me if anything changes https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C02v37.zip

11:23

Save your BIOS settings first though

Mintel

just Vista RTM on hardware it came on

how does it run?also how does it run solitare?

16:25

and drivers ofc

18:07

i'm confused

18:08

is it activated or not? /s (edited)

Yes it is

look at the watermark on the bottom

Log out and back and it will disappear

18:11

Or reboot

i know

18:12

i was trying to be ironic

18:12

but failed

wr3n

I would like you to grab this bios, flash it, and tell me if anything changes https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C02v37.zip

When I have time off and shit I'll try it

19:34

The thing is I updated the bios so that the CPU would work, I didn't even intend to run Vista, or even 7 for that matter.

19:41

All I can say is try burning Vista to a DVD and install it with a PS/2 device

19:41

That's what worked for me

Deleted User

All I can say is try burning Vista to a DVD and install it with a PS/2 device

That's how I installed it

Hey guys, since my motherboard has no PS/2 port will a PCI-E serial card + serial mouse work instead?

07:50

for vista install on ryzen

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No idea at all, haven't tried so myself.

08:27

But at that level, i think it will need a driver.

MassClaw

But at that level, i think it will need a driver.

wdym

A custom driver i meant.

for the Serial card?

Yes. But it might not be, the case also. (edited)

we had workstation transformation pack for server 2008 r1 in the old server. does anyone have it? (edited)

Nope.

09:14

I don't.

We did?

lodocus

we had workstation transformation pack for server 2008 r1 in the old server. does anyone have it? (edited)

Doesn't WinClient have a tutorial for that?

his link is busted

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oojavhdcnrn5g0/Server%202008%20to%20Workstation%20Transformation%20Pack.zip?dl=0

Dropbox - Error

Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!

09:16

Yup

09:16

If WinClient just joined Discord server.

09:17

I saw him in the kernelex server

Same

09:18

I didn't.

09:18

For me 9x Windows versions were meh.

09:18

I grew up using XP and that is what I use.

Ok

09:19

How's that related

He uses Vista so it would be cool if he joins this server.

Betajyst4094

How's that related

I don't know.

I saw him in the Vista ExKernel server

09:29

that's what I meant

Amazing.

Found him. (edited)

Can anyone invite me to his server?

Me too

What are you talking about?

About Winclient5270`s server.

he has no server. this was on the i430vx server. there is an invite link at http://i430vx.net

16:53

i430vx is a big xp user, and hates vista so he'll love having you there.

Thank you.

16:54

Also who didn`t hate vista back in the day it was relased lol. (edited)

Deleted User

Also who didn`t hate vista back in the day it was relased lol. (edited)

Also I430VX is on Windows XP server.

Deleted User

Also who didn`t hate vista back in the day it was relased lol. (edited)

me i loved aero

I mean stability and etc

people with decent pcs

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

people with decent pcs

you say that but your average computer user didnt have a high spec core 2 system in 2007

17:31

most people had a pentium 4 or something similar back then

yeah maybe in europe

17:33

we had pentium ds and pentium dual cores B)

Michael

most people had a pentium 4 or something similar back then

My dad did.

17:41

Though that was really late HT Pentium 4.

17:41

Also 2gb ram.

17:42

But the computer was 1000€ when my dad purchased it.

17:42

not the case only,but all the prephrals.

Deleted User

My dad did.

in 2007 i had a athlon xp-based sempron and 512mb ram

17:46

i used windows xp sp2 on that computer up through 2014

17:46

when i finally ran out of hdd space

17:46

lol

Vista would kill Atlon XP (edited)

17:47

or based sempron. (edited)

Deleted User

or based sempron. (edited)

the sempron was even slower

17:47

it was like the ipc of a pentium 3

17:48

it took me 15 minutes just to load into a roblox game, and thats back in the late 2000s when roblox was very light

Vista would instantly kill it.

Deleted User

Vista would instantly kill it.

i actually had windows 8 on it for a little while

17:48

i also had mac os x leopard for a little while

17:48

triple booted with XP SP2

17:48

windows 8 was super slow, leopard was actually quite usable

17:48

os x used to be very light believe it or not

Great.

leopard actually ran about as fast or faster than XP SP2

17:49

only problem is my gpu couldn't get qe/ci

17:49

cuz it was a VIA integrated gpu

17:49

in hindsight i wish i would have upgraded the gpu and ram earlier than i did, because i could have got so much more performance out of it

17:49

the cpu was actually alright for what i was using it for at the time (edited)

17:49

but the ram and gpu sucked

Same with my pc on Windows 7.

17:53

But it is not unusable.

Deleted User

Same with my pc on Windows 7.

windows 7 is pretty light in modern terms, i used to run it on a pentium 4 3ghz and ati radeon hd 5850 in 2014

17:53

pretty baller gpu for a pentium 4 doe

I am talking about the ram.

ah

17:53

i had 8gb ram on my pentium 4 pc

1gb ram is not that great for 7.

only 1gb lol?

17:53

im surprised you even use that at all

17:54

even on xp

I more use XP actually.

i ran windows 7 on a netbook with 1gb back in the day

17:54

but back then the web and software was lighter so (edited)

I wish I had netbook.

Deleted User

I wish I had netbook.

i have two but they're both busted unfortunately

Or any laptop at least.

the hp mini 110 is the one i had as a kid, first laptop i ever owned

17:55

and the dell latitude 2120 which i got more recently (edited)

Deleted User

Or any laptop at least.

what is your budget like? i got a thinkpad t430 with a i5 cpu and 4gb ram for $25 on ebay a while back

Should we go to #lounge

its 100% possible to find cheap laptops

On ebay yeah.

Deleted User

On ebay yeah.

do you not do ebay?

I don't.

whys that?

17:56

i buy just about all of my computer and electronic stuff on ebay

I am 14 and I don't have a credit card.

ah

17:56

im 18, my aunt lets me use her credit card and i just give her the money

17:56

im gonna set up a bank account and get a debit card before long though

17:56

now that im 18

Let's go to #lounge

ok

Deleted User

1gb ram is not that great for 7.

Even 2 is a serious pinch for x64

21:19

4 GB is the magic number for x64 nt6

docR

4 GB is the magic number for x64 nt6

absolutely fucking not and i cannot stress this enough

22:57

iit's 6+gb

22:57

i suffer on the daily with 4gb

22:57

i have to manage my ram like a madman

same, i often find myself using over 6 gb web browsing even

22:58

ok i also have ida pro and maybe some other things open, but yeah

Vruh 2

absolutely fucking not and i cannot stress this enough

I meant for the idle OS genius

23:03

6+, if not 8+ is required for web browsing now

idle os? (edited)

23:13

you can get away with 2gb

23:13

even 1.5gb

23:13

anything else you need more than 6gb

I burned through 2 even in 2013 with light browsing

23:24

I'd see memory idling 30+%

23:24

2 GB gets rough as the RAM is cached

guess we are gonna find out if Vista will install on a Ryzen system with no PS/2 port by... adding a serial port which will then convert to a PS/2 port

WinDVD

guess we are gonna find out if Vista will install on a Ryzen system with no PS/2 port by... adding a serial port which will then convert to a PS/2 port

bios has no ps/2 emulation?

i wish but asrock decided it was too overrated after the B250 fatality board (edited)

18:39

and the pro4 has a ps/2 port but not the B450M/AC :/

@win32 do you have any advice for a fresh install of vista

21:27

relating to setup

21:27

preparation

21:27

n shit

21:27

and a fresh clean untouched vista ultimate iso i can have

21:27

and should i do mbr or gpt

MBR will allow you to use "windows loaders".

21:33

But Vista doesn't do much to piss off those wanting to use newer hardware in the first place. It is the first version whose partition manager will automatically align partitions for SSDs.

is there any performance or other beneficial reason to use gpt

It removes various restrictions of MBR, such as the ability to fully use HDDs > 2 TB (Vista on MBR can have other HDDs in the PC as GPT) and allow you to have more than four partitions.

well for the boot install

21:34

if the boot hd is 500gb

wait on mbr you can't use 2tbs?

21:35

tf

are windows loaders even worth it behind all the shady links to them or is it better to just go gpt and disable the 2 activation services

just use a product key and the phone activation

21:35

a key from an old computer obv

i don't have any ultimate product keys

21:36

just business

21:36

and im gonna run ultimate

It doesn't really change much, unless you really really want more than 4 partitions. But it's quite easy to kill big chunks of Vista activation anyway by renaming slui.exe.

win32 do you have a good ultimate x64 iso

21:36

bone stock no extras

the eye

link please

https://the-eye.eu

The Eye | Front Page

The Eye is a website dedicated towards archiving and serving publicly available information. #opendirectory #archive #digitalhistory

what's a checked build

21:37

https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%20Vista/

Index of /public/MSDN/Windows Vista/

The Eye is a website dedicated towards archiving and serving publicly available information. #opendirectory #archive #digitalhistory

21:37

are the unmarked isos the multi-edition ones

i can't find a product key only listing on ebay

21:38

wtf

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

are the unmarked isos the multi-edition ones

yes

what is a checked build

for debugging purposes. has all kinds of special checks and balances. really slow

seems the only english ultimate isos are checked

does the phone activation activate gplk keys?

but i want an ultimate-only iso because this usb stick is only 4gb...

21:39

https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%20Vista/en_windows_vista_sp2_x64_dvd_342267.iso

21:39

downloaded this one

sounds good.

the non named ones are multi skus

21:40

i mean

21:40

even the only 1 sku are multi skus

21:40

just with the ei.cfg inside the iso

so i'll burn it to rufus under gpt because i'm pretty sure the hp pc runs uefi

21:40

or atleast some early version

21:40

then ill install it

21:40

ask for help fully updating it

21:41

get ultimate extras

21:41

get the installed decked out and then await the extender kernel update

this ultimate iso was supposed to be only 1 sku

21:41

instead there are all 4 skus

21:42

ms lazy piece of shit

ok too lazy to check because kvm switch + restarting pc quickly = juggling kb and switch buttons

21:43

haha 6.9mb/s

21:45

oh fuck is it a gt 240 or gts 240

21:45

gts 240

21:46

fucking vista download dropped at 2.6gb

21:46

crappy

21:48

cmoon

21:48

dick suckers

21:48

internet archive it is

Yeah. Rn the servers are slow

21:50

alright let's see

21:50

what other drivers can i get in preparation

21:50

hmm

21:50

network

21:50

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02560084

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Motherboard Specifications, N-Alvorix-R...

Specification for the Alvorix motherboard

21:50

ALC888S-VD

21:50

driver needed

21:52

https://www.realtek.cz/

REALTEK device drivers for Microsoft Windows

REALTEK: download driver for your Realtek sound, Realtek network, Realtek wireless or Realtek wifi card for Windows, latest PDF datasheets

21:52

this site

21:52

is fucking insane

i am extremly confused, i got thru the vista setup fine but as soon as it asks to restart it reboots into a bsod 0X0000001E

21:54

it seems like this isnt meant to be :(

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/getting-blue-screen-stop-code-error-0x0000001e/61bb8396-6f66-49fc-9b8d-d103774485f4

Getting Blue Screen stop code error 0x0000001E

hi..i m using asus pc from last 10 days..i m getting frequent blue screen problem 2 or three times in a days.my stop code is 0x0000001E.windows 7 64 bit..plz help me soon...i m scared.also my battery

21:54

says your ram is bad

its not tho

21:54

i use windows 7 fine

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/-0x0000001e-stop-error-occurs-intermittently-in-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-f341381a-5c70-4cda-7360-6728dfebb2e4

"0x0000001E" Stop error occurs intermittently in Windows 7 SP1 and ...

Fixes an issue in which a server crashes intermittently together with an error message in Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1. This issue occurs because of a memory leak.

its vista

This issue occurs because of an NTFS file system memory leak issue.

its not intermittently

21:54

its right after the setup

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/-0x0000001e-stop-error-on-a-computer-that-is-running-an-x64-based-version-of-windows-vista-sp2-or-of-windows-server-2008-sp2-d3e14cb7-ef32-d2fc-0afd-a0c02318205c

"0x0000001E" Stop error on a computer that is running an x64-based ...

Fixes an issue in which you receive a "0x0000001E" Stop error when you restart a computer. This issue occurs on a computer that is running an x64-based version of Windows Vista SP2 or of Windows Server 2008 SP2.

setup boots fine but as soon as it goes into the second stage it dies

what hardware

Ryzen 5 3600

21:55

and B450M/AC

oooooo

21:55

ryzen is fucky

and RC 480

@wr3n

RX*

ren know about ryzen

21:55

i think

i dont know why setup works fine but after it finishes "completing installation" and asks to reboot it gives the 0x0000001E

21:58

i just wanna install vista why must the universe smite me :(

use period correct hardware

i dont have any thats actually decent

21:58

and i wanna experiment with modern hardware

22:00

WAIT

22:00

going into kernel debugging fixed it???????

22:00

i think?

22:00

hmmm

IT WORKED

POGGERS

22:29

now how the frick am i gonna get drivers on here

22:30

my main priority is getting wifi working

22:44

gami ng time

22:44

where the fuck is my

22:44

rufus

22:45

can't even do gpt with this iso

22:45

hmm

22:48

Mintel

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

i wish i saw this first

22:54

im gonna download this

22:54

nevermind

22:54

5.4gb

23:16

23:17

booting into vista setup...

23:21

setup froze before drives screen

23:23

setup is back but i mighta put in the wrong 500 gigger

23:24

ok i just need to

23:24

move everything

23:24

?

it is done, ryzen 5 3600 on vista and me trying to install drivers for RX 480

WinDVD

it is done, ryzen 5 3600 on vista and me trying to install drivers for RX 480

how did it go?

23:31

you should try manually installing the driver if it dont work

it failed like expected

23:33

and manual install via replacing NT 6.1 with NT 6.0 in the INF didnt work just an error in device manager

@win32 any ideas?

rx 480 drivers will most likely be missing functions. i'm not sure if anyone ever got a rx 400 series working ever

yeah i think i remember reading something on MSFN about it

23:37

someone tried to get the 2016 drivers working back in 2016

23:37

on vista

23:37

and failed i think

23:37

2015 drivers supposedly work tho

23:41

who knows maybe with next extended kernel update it will work

i doubt it will be the next update. but hopefully win32 will come up with something soon enough

00:21

3rd burn

00:55

00:56

00:57

fucks sake

00:57

only showing up as generic flash disk in boot menu and won't let me boot into

00:57

it

did you burn uefi or bios

uefi

try bios

another 30 minute disk burn :(

yeah but it may work

im gonna make some nachos because ive wasted 1 1/2 hours waiting for these burns

i instead had cheesecake

01:21

Is it detecting the install media now? Or do you need more cheesecake?

WinDVD

it is done, ryzen 5 3600 on vista and me trying to install drivers for RX 480

Meanwhile with a 970

well, what is a 480 equivalent to for nvidia?

Somewhere between a 970 and a 1650S

01:55

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-RX-480/2577vs3634

UserBenchmark: AMD RX 480 vs Nvidia GTX 970

Based on 881,303 user benchmarks for the AMD RX 480 and the Nvidia GTX 970, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 661 GPUs.

01:55

Closest to a 970

damn, they are nicely matched. if only i had went with one when many good listings for it were around $100

Yeah fr

01:57

I bought mine for $110 in Dec 2019

01:57

Now they're like 250

01:58

A 780 isn't far behind either. 780 just about matches it almost

01:58

Look for those 3

i am so cheap, that i will probably only get a 970 through the same method i got my fx 5700le.

How was that?

01:58

I have a feeling you'd have an easier time finding a 780

which means it will come in some old sandy bridge custom build that i will get for free in 2029 (got the 2004 gpu in 2019, in a willamette p4 box)

Heh, fair enough

unfortunately, a 780 would have too great power consumption for me.

Oooh

01:59

That limits the search considerably then

need to keep it at 150w, or else i have to get another psu

docR

Is it detecting the install media now? Or do you need more cheesecake?

well it is im just copying files through xubuntu rn because turns out the 500gb i stuck in the pc was a used one and it has some files i want

02:00

well i discovered it actually has lots of old files i'd really like to keep

A 750 ti wouldn't be too bad either. They're actually Maxwell, so the Powe consumption is lower

02:01

I saw a little evga single blower 950 for 150 which.... Asinine, but not too unreasonable

yeah, those are really nice, but the only modern thing i care about is cities: skylines... so i guess it will wait until i get more ram

02:02

who was it that didn't understand that 6 gb wasn't enough for it, and that with mods, dlcs and even free content additions, that the game will easily eat 32 gb?

I'd still be on my 950 if not for 2 games

02:04

New Space Engine wants 4 GB for all bells and whistles, tho I could pinch it with 2. Final Fantasy 15, the only recent AAA I like, just wasn't gonna take 2 GB

02:04

It barely behaves with 4

02:05

I get 45 fps with some micro stutter at 900p

02:05

But it's still pleasant. It was hell on PS4

02:06

I'll get a Series S in the future as more AAA bs catches my eye.. Rather, if

02:06

4 GB is really comfy for me. 2 could almost cut it

02:07

I want 32 GB RAM tho. I wanna order it next month lol

I can't have 32 GB... because I'm triple channel lol

what ddr?

I'm DDR3 (1333)

don't 16gb sticks exist

win32

I can't have 32 GB... because I'm triple channel lol

Sorry 24 *

get up to 48gb

Isn't DDR2 ECC RAM cheap as shit?

Yes, but I'm not sure if my board will take 16. Apparently it can, but it's unofficial.

my vista tower is gonna run 24gb because i'm using a bunch of sticks i've gotten over the years

docR

Isn't DDR2 ECC RAM cheap as shit?

32gb is 60 dollars

02:09

source: upgraded workstation ram 2 months ago

Pffft, more like 90 for x99

02:09

I'll pay it though lol

02:09

That Precision is based

02:10

classic

PC Master Race

02:10

I wanna shove someone in a locker when I read that

02:10

You can help @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

pcmr was based 6 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbpraeFzUqA it's apparently true. i do have a v2 board

GreenPCGamers.com

HP Z600 V2 96GB Memory Install (6 x 16GB Modules)

win32 do it

it's gonna be at least 200 CAD just for that though...

02:15

crappy canuck currency

is it a disgrace to share this to the vista channel?

yes because i can point out every inconsistency

so can i, i built it

freedom, he probably doesn't have lockers in his neighbourhood, but there might be phone booths, so push him into one

02:17

just these 3

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

those network bars are based tho

explorer looks a bit off but i can't tell why or where

I kept that on purpose

docR

those network bars are based tho

inaccurate and unbased

02:18

click the network icon to see the status

but i skinned it with shinnier resources

02:18

i have the blinking network icon beside it though

02:18

battery icon is the same

02:18

why is it green

notepad3

just use notepad++

its a fork of notepad2-mod

02:19

and i modded it further

02:20

if its any consolation, i bombard vista with this stuff too

so you're going to rape the about dialog of any application i make with these illegitimate banners?

02:21

stuff that is made to run on windows nt 4?

only a few

02:23

7 raped explorer's search, so it needed a replacement

02:23

search is integral

02:23

so it gets badged

02:23

notepad replacement too

02:23

thats about it

02:24

could be worse. i could've branded iti as Freedom OS

worse?

02:24

freedom os? worse?

02:24

️

*better

02:24

okay even better

02:24

R3nOS

NOO

YES

02:25

with a lolli on the about image

02:25

actually no, thats a bit too far

win32 OS would be the worst name, as the only good opportunity to give an OS that name was in 1993.

win64

that aside, Everything is actually pretty helpful even in Vista

02:29

it can search through terabytes worth of data in seconds

02:29

while the windows indexer is still refreshing

02:29

it is a remarkable piece of software

yes, i believe that vista search doesn't look in zips, unlike xp.

it does load the index into RAM though

02:30

it uses about 70 mb to index my 6 TB worth of drives

win32

yes, i believe that vista search doesn't look in zips, unlike xp.

XP could?

02:31

I know that Search extension Microsoft later released was pretty powerful

02:31

the one with the windows live ui

02:32

7's search is a downright bomb tho

yes, i remember it doing just that, making search operations considerably slower than in windows 2000. this was with the built-in rover-infested search.

7 search is baaaaad

02:32

unusable

02:32

unbearable

02:32

just bad

docR

7 search is baaaaad

7 search was always fine for me

02:32

but 10 is shit

its okay for the absolute basics

8.1 always ran fine for me

02:32

and vista

7's indexer has an iq of 60

the 10 start menu search is shit too, i have to use classic shell and even that is slower than windows 7

02:33

i used to use cracked startisback++ which was quick but the crack doesnt actually work

but its alright, because Everything kicks ass

it tells me its not activated now

02:33

im gonna try to find a pre-activated one

buy it?

02:33

what is it like 10 bucks?

docR

buy it?

my family is below poverty level, i have like $30 to my name

02:33

im trying to save up for investments currently

02:33

dont wanna spend any more than i have to

well fair enough

im mining btc in the background and ill invest what i make back into gpu's for btc mining once the gpu market settles down

02:34

i did the math and i can end up making around $96,000 a year minus electricity off of btc mining

02:34

after 3 years

well good luck with that

i need to see how much electricity will cost though

02:34

because thats a big factor

right all mining is earning us is win32 not having his 970

i plan to live in japan and electricity is supposed to be cheaper there

win32 is going to start 4006ing if he can't find his $100 970

docR

right all mining is earning us is win32 not having his 970

im not scalping or anything, and im not buying a gpu until the market gets back to normal

02:35

im just doing it in the background on the same gpu ive always had right now

Michael

i plan to live in japan and electricity is supposed to be cheaper there

i hope it's 3 cents per kilowatt hour, like it is here when the temperature is above -15c

win32

i hope it's 3 cents per kilowatt hour, like it is here when the temperature is above -15c

is that expensive? (edited)

i believe our standard rate is closer to 8 cents per kwh. those are cheap by north american standards as a net exporter of electricity (edited)

I'd like to visit Japan, but honestly I'd live in Estonia or FInland if I could lol

hmm

Michael

i plan to live in japan and electricity is supposed to be cheaper there

fuck japan

02:35

go live in wyoming

02:36

wind turbines and low prices mean everything is cheap as fuck there

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

go live in wyoming

could i bring my gf to wyoming, freedom?

probably if you live around cheynne

02:36

rest of wyoming might put on ghost costumes

meanwhile, the us virgin islands paid over 38 us cents per kilowatt hour because they have to import their fuel, and are relatively small consumers, back in 2012 anyway (edited)

a single rtx 2080 uses about 250kWh at peak usage

though there isn't that much outside of cheyenne

oh in japan it doesnt actually get more expensive if you use more than 300kwh apparently?

02:36

what

so if i'm in rural wyoming i'll be getting into gunfights with the locals?

am i reading this right

if you're in rural wyoming there's a 95% chance there aren't locals

okay fair

02:37

thats actually based

02:37

dark green = noone lives there

my gf is american at heart, she says we're gonna be packing

when we move in together

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

go live in wyoming

if wyoming is so great, why aren't the japanese like blackwingcat relocating there?

because they're fucking stupid

02:38

because they're JAPANESE

they'd rather be overcrowding the island

02:38

eating sea monsters

if i lived in japan id kill myself

if i lived in the southern us i'd.... oh wait

how many amps would i realistically use with a bunch of computers running and other gadgets like game consoles?

a lot

i can get anywhere from 10A to 60A in japan

Is electricity more expensive there?

02:39

Is it bad in Canada?

michael if you go to japan i'll be sure to get the united states to fight it

02:39

fuck japan

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

michael if you go to japan i'll be sure to get the united states to fight it

stop capping bro

cap?

02:39

what cap?

I leave my desktop on 24/7 with the hard drives spinning down

there is no

i reboot every week

so apparently japan has a 3-step power usage plan

02:40

over 301kwh makes it 30yen/kwh per month

02:40

which is about 3 cents

02:40

so thats pretty good

02:40

wait no

02:40

thats 30 cents (edited)

02:40

what

970, 1650 v3 xeon, 650w dell psu. monitors go into sleep mode after 15 mins. is that a lot of idle power?

docR

Is it bad in Canada?

Quebec is doing great because their utility is publicly owned and exports a lot. But other provinces import or apparently partially privatized their utilities, so it's a nightmare for some, like in rural Ontario where normal usage can reach $500 per month.

30 cents sounds really expensive doesnt it

02:40

if its like 8 cents in europe (edited)

02:41

so thats $75 a month for each rtx 2080 im running for mining basically

win32

Quebec is doing great because their utility is publicly owned and exports a lot. But other provinces import or apparently partially privatized their utilities, so it's a nightmare for some, like in rural Ontario where normal usage can reach $500 per month.

Did Win32 just tip his hat off at a state-run industry

cuz they use 250kwh at peak

this is news to me

02:41

jk lol

02:41

but yeah, understandable

michael where are you rn

Michael

30 cents sounds really expensive doesnt it

Yes, it's expensive.

there's libertarian dorks here trying to privatize the united states postal service

i thought the usps was already privatized

MassClaw

Yes, it's expensive.

i think it will still end up working out price-wise though

libertarians are just hippie republican rejects

with 16 btc mining rigs, each using 2 rtx 2080's, thats about $28,000 a year on electricity

libertarians are based sometimes

but i will be making about $96,000 a year with that many rigs

02:42

so its actually not that bad

Michael

if its like 8 cents in europe (edited)

mike what country/state/territory are you in

ill use celerons or pentiums for the cpu that use low power

docR

Did Win32 just tip his hat off at a state-run industry

Well, a natural monopoly is a crown jewel of the state (and its people). Putting it in the hands of private investors spells trouble for those forced to use its infrastructure. See Bulgaria. (edited)

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

mike what country/state/territory are you in

kentucky

goddamn southerner

i dont have a country accent though

go live in wyoming

02:42

for cheap electricity

r3n is from KY too, and doesn't have an accent either. not really that far south when you border ill-noise and no-high-o i guess

ohio has some cool people

02:43

except gas there is like

02:43

5 bucks rn

i think it will still end up working out price-wise though

Don't really think so, no exact reason but i don't think it will work out that easily.

win32

Well, a natural monopoly is a crown jewel of the state (and its people). Putting it in the hands of private investors spells trouble for those forced to use its infrastructure. See Bulgaria. (edited)

Indeed

The prices have exceeded $1.35 per litre here. $5.10 a gallon now.

Win32 can you attest I do not have a southern accent despite residing in a state named after Beria's homeland?

Yes, I can.

gas is $3.13 a gallon where i am

02:46

fuckin terrible

gas is non-existent where i am

02:46

georgia got hit the worse

im gonna need 2 jobs to pay for my v8 if biden is in office any longer

I'd probably need like 6 if Trudeau is elected again.

this was the ruskies this time, freedom

fucking russians

02:46

fucking biden

02:46

fucking native americans

win32

I'd probably need like 6 if Trudeau is elected again.

He is really intent on jacking up his carbon tax, from around $50 per metric ton in 2019 to $300.

fucking boomers not running closed networks for a major pipeline system fueling 1/3 of the united states

win32

He is really intent on jacking up his carbon tax, from around $50 per metric ton in 2019 to $300.

I'm sure the IMF will be involved by 2025 as a result of his reckless spending

i want oil and gas pipelines

02:47

everywhere

uh

02:48

well freedom

02:48

i don't want to be like china, in that i can't see more than 5 feet in front of me to smog

that's california's problem

fuck california

02:48

fake state

we don't have billions of people centered in a city

I wanna be green by the mid 2030s, but doing do doesn't mean torturing everyone in the process with unreasonable taxes and gas prices

i want to be green by incentivizing electric vehicles but not penalizing other vehicles

closing the dakota pipeline is grounds for a whipping

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

i want to be green by incentivizing electric vehicles but not penalizing other vehicles

^

02:50

money talks, shit walks

02:50

make it the more economic option

02:50

start building big trucks and redneck mobiles for less, and people will flock

if i can't drive my v8 around at reasonable prices though im gonna kill some mf

if my dad can't travel to work, win32's gonna 4006 the kremlin for their transgressions

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

i want to be green by incentivizing electric vehicles but not penalizing other vehicles

Everyone should also remember that more electric vehicles require more extraction of lithium (why US ordered regime change in Bolivia last year) and rare earth metals.

wasn't toyota working on a solid state battery?

yes

Some headlines say they pumped out a beta car with it. (edited)

ok time to stuff vista on the hp pc

02:57

i think i got all of my important files

02:59

time to hope that xubuntu wasn't lying when it said i copied the files to the other drive

At least it's not a dell one. And yes. (edited)

dells are the best

In the old days that is.

the hp?

03:02

are you moving to that machine?

03:02

did you ever find a phenom for it?

not til i get a bunch of money so i can get that and some other stuff

03:04

gonna be dual-maining my optiplex and the hp

03:04

since they're both kvmed

03:08

flipped over to vista pc

03:09

it's at the please wait while windows sets up your computer screen

what all would you want for the hp to switch?

gonna see if it gets past it

03:09

just the cpu and gpu

03:09

24gb ram is plenty for me

03:09

i'd also like to stick an ssd in it someday though

kvmed

Finally, amazing. (edited)

still at the screen...

03:11

oh fuck i reset bios to defaults earlier and that may have set it to raid

03:11

fuuuck i dont wanna reinstall again

03:11

welp

03:11

reisntall time

Happens sometimes. (edited)

gamer moment

no it's all fine

03:12

idk wtf held it up

03:12

reinstalling

03:12

hopefully it gets past the screen

03:13

pc rebooted straight into the please wait screen

03:13

no reinstall needed i guess

03:13

ill give it

03:13

15 minutes

03:14

before i declare it dead and reinstall

03:16

@win32 is this a common issue

"set it to raid" - vista needs raid drivers loaded or else it won't be happy.

it's on ahci

03:18

just going

Please wait while Windows sets up your computer
Please wait while Windows sets up your computer.
Please wait while Windows sets up your computer..
Please wait while Windows sets up your computer...

i think it usually takes a few minutes. what cpu is it again?

ITS ALIVE

03:18

athlon ii x4 640

03:18

just needed to be patient i guess

03:20

Completing installation.
Completing installation..
Completing installation...

(edited)

03:22

ffs

03:22

finished and then it fucking

03:22

bluescreened

03:22

0x00000050

03:22

suck a dick ms

03:23

restarted

03:23

cursor on black screen

03:23

and then 0x0000007E

03:23

@win32 please help

03:25

and now it's asking me to reinstall windows

could be bad ram, or a corrupt volume

ram is good

03:26

xubuntu live disk ran fine and this pc in a similar config (same ram different gpu) ran 8.1 7 and vista fine

03:26

well in the vista config it only had 4gb of ram and the igpu

03:26

volume can't be corrupt because it's fucking NEW

03:27

clicked ok at the reinstall windows screen and it bsodded with 0x00000050 again

03:27

holy shit

03:27

is this what people dealt with in 2009

03:27

is this why everyone hated vista

03:27

im gonna go to bed

03:28

will deal with this more tomorrow

03:28

i ask for suggestions overnight

my question applies to the video ram as well

uh

different gpu...

well i can't confirm if it's good or bad

03:30

it's a 7 dollar thriftstore gpu that might be good

does it behave differently with a different gpu or onboard video?

dunno

03:30

when i ran vista ages ago

03:30

i ran it with the onboard gpu and with a gtx 745

03:35

do you have any recommendations

03:35

i can wake up early and try installing it again tomorrow

No idea, bluescreens are inconclusive to say the least.

i do suggest seeing if the same thing happens with onboard or another gpu. there is no need to reinstall just for that purpose

MassClaw

No idea, bluescreens are inconclusive to say the least.

yeah my computer just randomly blue screened with a page fault for no reason

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

it's a 7 dollar thriftstore gpu that might be good

That explains a thing or two

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Also the leftmost circled item. That's the language bar icon, and it's unchanged from Vista. If anything it's unchanged from XP

win32

well, what is a 480 equivalent to for nvidia?

above GTX 1060 and below GTX 1070 (edited)

docR

Also the leftmost circled item. That's the language bar icon, and it's unchanged from Vista. If anything it's unchanged from XP

mine is a kb icon

SO installing aMD CHIPSET drivers broke my Vista install

WinDVD

above GTX 1060 and below GTX 1070 (edited)

It definitely isn't above a 1060. It's head to head with a 1060 3 gig, if not a smidge slower

Yeah it's 580 that's above 1060 and below 1070

The 8 gig 580 at that, yeah

@docR when are you going to share the workstation transformation pack?

Right now

right thanks

https://mega.nz/file/1mhBCSLD#uJDzwSwWlqW6Au_SzD0ljkfJpSgR87xO2VFICO3oQyc

18:08

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

18:08

you get your solitaire

Share

18:09

Yes

18:09

Thank you pal

pin below is server 2008 to workstation pack (edited)

lodocus pinned a message to this channel. 11/05/2021 18:09

and the ultimate extras games, installs on any version of windows vista and up https://mega.nz/file/xz51CIRb#S2APrNIEczydbG0Jd6qzdSxmuO225jQPsNXBZ13_XKM

82.81 MB file on MEGA

thanks a lot man

i'd grab onto this too https://www.deviantart.com/windowsaesthetics/art/Windows-Vista-and-7-HD-Wallpaper-Pack-799685426

18:12

does anyone have an aptil 2017 updated server 2008 iso?

18:12

that way installing the kernel would be quite easy

18:13

also made this just for the heck of it in 2015

18:13

Vista_Server_Edition_Branding.7z

291.94 KB

cool

18:13

i dont think there is updated serv 08 iso though

18:14

sha2 wuc patch should let you update it (edited)

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

But I must flex my server 2008 install

18:14

yeah

18:15

I'd apply 2008 R2's login wallpaper perhaps lol

Wait

but i love vista's image too much

Just noticed

18:15

It says server...vista server

yes thats just a mod i did

18:15

i don't recommend it

Okay thanks for suggesting to use it

just sharing this stuff to archive it

18:17

if it were my install, branding would be left unaltered

18:17

i'd just use the orb in system properties

18:17

enable everything with the workstation converter, the games, ultimate extras. vista's login ui

docR

I'd apply 2008 R2's login wallpaper perhaps lol

every time i think about server r2 i think of those old rdp apps on like ios 6 in 2013

replace wallpapers with those from that hd restored pack

where you could rdp into a server 2008 r2 machine for free and mess around with it

18:17

with almost 0 latency

but yeah with this pack

18:18

it'll truly just be an edition of vista lol

yeah there was an rdp app before

18:18

it had an free trial option

lodocus

yeah there was an rdp app before

do you remember onlive?

i dont remember anything honestly

onlive was my shit, back when i had a super slow ancient computer in the late 2000s/early 2010s onlive allowed me to play brand new AAA pc games for free without even buying the games

18:20

it was a streaming service for pc games, the first of its kind

18:20

i used to play assassin's creed and others on it

well hell. now i feel like installing server 2008 and workstation coverting it

18:21

ya'll broke me

18:21

i haven't tested 2008 r1 in YEARS

18:21

i used to daily it

docR

well hell. now i feel like installing server 2008 and workstation coverting it

same same

i'd switch between 2008 r1 and vista ultimate every few months because i was compulsive as hell

i really wish win32 makes amd drivers work on vista soon as possible (edited)

lodocus

i really wish win32 makes amd drivers work on vista soon as possible (edited)

i mean ive been messing with them but no luck

lodocus

i really wish win32 makes amd drivers work on vista soon as possible (edited)

win32 wants to acquire a 970 for himself. i wouldn't count on it

there is probably a way to get them to work without ex kernel

docR

win32 wants to acquire a 970 for himself. i wouldn't count on it

he thinks "fully working amd will come before nvidia" maybe? perhaps?? (edited)

18:24

hopefully so

who knows

18:24

maybe ill ask the person who modded the 2015 drivers to work on vista

18:25

apparently they stubbed some functions

i doubt 480 works with 2015 drivers

it wont

18:25

but ill learn more about it

18:25

and maybe ill get them working

lodocus

i doubt 480 works with 2015 drivers

even if it did you'd be a very unhappy person

18:26

Radeon drivers didn't start to get half-decent until well after they dropped Vista

yeah i can tell

18:26

i cant even stand 2017 drivers

19.12 is great. supposedly 20.7 or some shit is okay too

i mean its still better than the basic display driver

it used to be real rough

18:27

i'd say trade it for a similar maxwell gpu, but mining hoarding kind of makes that difficult rn

18:27

perahaps a compromise

18:27

i could help you setup 7 like mine

economy has just literally collapsed where i live. thats my primary issue (edited)

yeah a 970 or 780 where i live is well over 200 USD too

18:28

they're $90-100 cards

18:28

not 265

yeah and include the fact that 1 usd= 9 try and the minimum wage being around 2800 try and even lower in many businesses (edited)

Ouch

install the compromise

hot

its great, but be prepared to spend 3 hours of your life you won't get back setting it up like this

lodocus

yeah and include the fact that 1 usd= 9 try and the minimum wage being around 2800 try and even lower in many businesses (edited)

337 USD?

yeah around that number

and with the democracy and laws vanishing and the government being full of thieves with a stupid stupid president on top that gets "backstabbed" by this and that almost every time like a cherry on top for full wasted 18 years INCLUDING the recent missing 128 billion usd case -which could seal the countries every debt- that government tries to hide, even breathing feels poisinous for me (edited)

18:42

anyways i will not turn this into #deleted-channel

lodocus

he thinks "fully working amd will come before nvidia" maybe? perhaps?? (edited)

ive thought amd drivers are helallalalot harder to work on compared to nvidia ones. i guess i was wrong the entire time

btw idk what #deleted-channel is for

thats what ive wanted to add above

18:44

vent is a channel to cry about stuff

18:44

hence the name vent

What country?

where does the steam come out from? vent

18:44

turkey

Damn

18:46

And a GTX 780 on ebay rn is..... $200

thats why i went with the rx470 ive found

250 last year got you a 980 ti

18:46

Yeah

18:46

You have a good GPU

its powerful and i got it for 70 usd

I think you'd like 7 setup like vista tbh

oh man

18:47

oh man

18:47

i do

18:47

it was my plan before buying the gpu

Follow winclient's guide, to the letter. Then come to me and I'll give you some extra mods and updated files

18:48

So it'll be like mine

ah no

18:48

ive been through that multiple times

And?

the entire guide is carved to my head

Fair enough

18:49

Alright well do what you know how to first

18:49

Then I'll finish it for ya

but something (i believe uxthemepatcher) collides with the amd driver and causes ram leaks and an unavoidable black screen

AMD moment

18:49

Use 19.12

18:50

I tested 19.12 thoroughly, it's fine

its been 1 year and i still dont know exactly what is causing all of this wreck let alone looking for a solution

Bad driver

at this point i believe its this card

Well try 19.12, it should be okay

18:51

If not it's a hw issue

18:51

What oem is that card?

uh

18:51

the platinum one?

I mean who makes it

ah

18:52

sapphire

18:52

18:53

4 gb vram

Oh

basically ive found out amd drivers suck on windows and works great on linux and vice versa for nvidia the hard way

18:54

lol

Yes

18:54

But good AMD drivers for 7 do exist, they're just not numerous

18:54

19.12 is very stable

got judged over it for that like "didnt you know amd bad on windows you stopid you gotta do proper research before buy"

Yeah it happens

18:55

Nvidia after 2019 isn't much better though

18:56

The Windows drivers for the past year and a half have been radioactive from them too

like man ive never bought amd before and did do research but ive never thought it was a slight possibility that an well known gpu would work horrible on an dominant operating system (edited)

Yes

18:56

Welcome to Radeon

18:56

Enjoy your stay

18:56

Just install 19.12

there were a lot of shit ati drivers for 2000/xp as well

if i do vis7a i definetly try 19.12

Reason I splurged $110 for an EVGA 970 rather than $75 for a 470 lol

lodocus

if i do vis7a i definetly try 19.12

It'll surprise you. It's very stable

18:58

But VCE rendering is fucked outside of Windows 10 with it. Which triggered me

oh i would kill for an evga 970 back then but the gap between 77 and around 110 is big for me (edited)

19.12 has no serious stability issues, it just isn't perfectly optimized

18:59

But no stupid bugs either

18:59

It's just VCE mostly which.. VCE is kinda shit

what is vce?

AMD's GPU encoder

20:54

it's their version of Quicksync or NVENC

ok

00:41

time to

00:42

switch to igpu and install vista

any luck yet?

nope

01:41

same screen

01:41

no bsods though

01:42

assistance please

01:42

nvm

01:42

0x0000007e

01:44

tried clicking repair your computer from the install screen

01:44

got 0x0000007e'd again

01:44

@win32 help please

01:44

or do you have a good vista ultimate x64 iso that's under 4gb

Without the extended kernel?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/error-code-0x0000007e-on-new-install/37e25552-0eca-4548-bfae-3f523c580866

Error code 0x0000007E on new install

HI there, I'm trying to do a fresh install of windows 7. I am booting from the dvd drive and once the system reads Starting Windows, after a few seconds I get a blue screen, with the error code STOP

01:45

without preferably

It still 5.7 GBs though. An up to date vista 64 bit iso by mintel. (edited)

you will have to try the "N" version: https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%20Vista/en_windows_vista_n_sp2_x64_dvd_342268.iso

n version just means no ie right

no wmp or wmm

can you add em on after?

yes

so

02:41

that 0x0000007e'd

02:41

immediately after i clicked the install now button

02:41

i don't know

02:41

why

02:41

because the whole config is good

02:41

vista's run on it before

02:42

guess i'll pull all the ram and try again

02:43

installing on a single stick of 8gb now

02:49

no bsod but this iso only has home basic and business

02:49

uhh

02:49

i'll do business and just upgrade to ultimate later

02:49

fuck it

02:50

i bet one of my ram sticks wasn't in all the way or something

02:50

gonna have to rearrange them when i reinstall them

02:52

actually no if this install works

02:52

i'm gonna burn ultimate to the usb stick

02:52

and install it again

Vruh

You're still at it?

03:33

Damn

03:33

Reminds me of an issue I faced with 7

ill get to it tomorrow

03:35

i think

03:35

i had this same issue

03:35

or similar

03:35

on my workstatiob when i got 1 cpu with wrobg stepping

RAM stick?

thats the presumed issue with this pc

03:36

all yhe ram should ve good thoygh

Presumed eh?

vista pc appears to have bluescreened

13:28

... in the middle of copying files

13:28

so if any ram is bad

13:28

it's the stick that's in the pc rn

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County do /nick freedom | the obsessed vista user

so

00:12

i put in

00:12

2 other

00:12

well-ran

00:12

confirmed good ram sticks

00:12

and it just 0x0000007e'd

00:12

what's the deal???

BSoDs can totally be unrelated sometimes to the trouble they are describing* with their codes. (edited)

Related with windows doesn't mean related at all.

01:00

It's in the same vein as calling the citizen near your hotel a neighbour.

Well

02:45

Guess that machine is forever marked by the Grim reaper as not for Vista

02:45

Some GNU feller will love it

okay so lets backtrack

03:33

what has changed since then?

03:34

have you tried another gpu?

03:35

well

03:35

F

03:36

I'd wait for the HAL to get patched then

03:36

and keep that Dell (edited)

03:36

I could help you tweak 8.1 to be pretty close to Vista, minus the branding

03:36

okay better yet

03:36

7

03:37

with the branding

03:37

it is in fact the 7th deadly sin

03:37

sins aren't counted in decimals

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there is the buggy driver mod

03:41

for pascal cards

03:42

yeah

03:42

its a 1000 card

03:43

yeaH but no 3d accelleration

WinDVD

yeaH but no 3d accelleration

thought it worked, just with butchered perf?

03:44

1/2

i meant basic driver

oh that shit

headphone just snapped feeling good

~~freedom convert your 8.1 install while you wait, or switch to mintel's updated 8.0 iso. i have an 8.0 crack that will not punish you for altering branding files~~

03:47

Only Win32 fixing HAL can save you from my cult

03:47

I will consume you given enough time

03:48

butchering the nearest sibliong NT6 OS into Vista is what I do

03:48

7 to me is a standardized Vista with a butt ugly interface and missing features

03:49

I renounce laptops after 2016

docR

butchering the nearest sibliong NT6 OS into Vista is what I do

You are banned from Eclipse.

03:49

/j

win32

You are banned from Eclipse.

No HAL, man =/

03:50

I'll butcher 7 into Vista

03:50

I've already done it 46,853 times

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i'd sooner walk into best buy, buy the first laptop on display, sporting 1366x768, a locked firmware via secureboot, windows 10 home edition, and 8 gb of soldiered RAM than ever do that

03:51

Freedom

wat? are there somehow a printer plugged in when you're installing? (edited)

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piss off, you'll never reach my level of detail with it

03:54

yes

03:54

it is

03:55

will it run the 6801 apps?

Why you pingin the guy so much

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yeah

6801 apps too?

03:55

not even 7 rtm+ runs those

Ofc, if he implemented the necessary sqm functions for rtm 7 paint (edited)

maybe you need to inssert the computer into a meat grinder

03:57

or sign it up for twitter

03:57

former is a more humane way to go

03:58

but i know you have a bit of a saddist side

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~~shit, he found 2013 me~~

docR

~~shit, he found 2013 me~~

Fuck, same.

03:59

This site is disgusting

my cursed old 8.0 screenshot from 2015 or so

U sure thats not 9785?

04:00

Windowed metro

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yeah i honestly hate that

Or a 3rd party app

the windowed metro?

04:01

yes, modernmix

That's also 978x

04:01

Ah okay

probably the only based stardock app

04:02

Dear Satan known as @wr3n , we pray and offer our petitions to you that you will bestow @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County's computer the ability to complete a successful install of Vista

04:02

Amen

04:02

sacrifces 10 install to the burning bush of hell in offering

04:04

04:05

back when vista7 used to look ricy

04:05

Dreamscene?

back when i had an obsession of having as many desktop icons as possible

04:06

and yes

04:06

not a big deal, dreamscene patchers work on 2008 just like they do other editions of vista (edited)

04:06

and 7 (with caveats)

04:08

pfffft

I have an x2 250

docR

pfffft

imagine your videos from that time

win32

imagine your videos from that time

you'd know

04:10

they're all privated :--)

docr, where'd you get that patch from

what

Dreamscene.

i'll send it

04:11

WORKING_Dreamscene_Activator_1.zip

421.34 KB

04:11

there

Grammercy

he only prays to himself

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A 4 core athlon. Those are weird

Win32, if you don't intervene for him

04:12

he'll be mine

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=DDDDD

04:12

too bad

GPT..

why uefi?

04:13

wtf are you doing?

you're getting vista6.1

04:13

its marked on the wall

04:13

that moment when a browser is using 1/2 of your RAM

To the great bi minds that work vista to make it the best it can be, please make Vista install successfully for freedom, for he shall deliver eternal gratitude to them!

04:14

I have a chilling theory

04:15

Doea NT6.0 give Freedom and I these obstacles for not being bi?

04:15

Does Freedom need to develop a liking for erm.... in order to use it?

docR

Does Freedom need to develop a liking for erm.... in order to use it?

well it works for winclient. /j

he has offspring

Is there a straight vista user on this server?

Freedom

04:17

Me, if I count

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Sis?

I don't think The Chamber of Vista counts my 6.1 hackjob

04:17

I did main Vista only a few years ago though

You are sus, freedom

and fought people over it like freedom does now, albeit less humorously (and without vista slips)

i think freedom is the only straight vista user as of now. at one time, yes, straight people other than freedom used Windows Vista, but I'm not sure these days since audi went insane.

Never admit you're using vista on neowin.net

win32

i think freedom is the only straight vista user as of now. at one time, yes, straight people other than freedom used Windows Vista, but I'm not sure these days since audi went insane.

Insane.... ouch

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they're lonely basement dwellers. rational half-normal human beings would at worse scratch their heads in confusion, not take personal offense to it

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yes, but what if he is in camp #4006, using windows 7 build 7022 or something for now?

win32

i think freedom is the only straight vista user as of now. at one time, yes, straight people other than freedom used Windows Vista, but I'm not sure these days since audi went insane.

your 4006 blowing in his face probably fried his head

What a cult

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lots of insanity in ripcord server too

04:20

i see

Betajyst4094

What a cult

Vista6.1

People been going crazy about 4006 here

04:20

I tried it

longhorn 4006 hasn't leaked, but i think audi will try to fake it this summer. even make some semi-broken "features" to make it look realistic

On 7978

Betajyst4094

I tried it

it has a gradient

04:21

and an activation notice

04:21

its the second coming of christ according to audi

The menu button looks far better though

the button does look nicer, but the shitty silver theme being the only option is very ayymd

docR

its the second coming of christ according to audi

Maybe, just the activation pop up's a big gate

also bad news

04:22

I left ayymd to clear out my unused list of servers, so i can't spam its invite anymore

docR

the button does look nicer, but the shitty silver theme being the only option is very ayymd

You don't tell me you're using that abomination, that is dark theme..

docR

I left ayymd to clear out my unused list of servers, so i can't spam its invite anymore

i thought it was something truly tragic, like rtfm getting nuked /s

Betajyst4094

You don't tell me you're using that abomination, that is dark theme..

if you don't use the abomination that is 7's default theme, it looks presentable

Weirdest dark theme ever

Yea that looks off honestly

its fine

It's not

its easy to look at for hours

04:23

I actually write a lot as a hobby

04:23

I use this for hours on end (edited)

Move to FreeOffice /s

GNU feggot detected

It's the only one I got working on bsd

I miss 2007, man =/

:(

Should I switch back?

office 14 build 4006

Win32 claims he had compatibility issues in 2007

docR

I miss 2007, man =/

Man you should've seen my face when I first saw 2007 after whole life on libreoffice...

I have a key

04:25

and a sku thats keyless

win32

office 14 build 4006

If 4006's so good, why isn't there 4007

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watch an anime of r3n's choosing

docR

Win32 claims he had compatibility issues in 2007

yes, it's true. i had some issues with PPT presentations that complemented a textbook.

what happened?

It's pretty old after all (edited)

i use office a hellton and never had a document i couldn't open

04:27

this is unironically my favorite change about 2010 from 2007

docR

what happened?

only the bg renders

jesus

2010 is the last good looking release

Betajyst4094

2010 is the last good looking release

last good working *

04:29

it wasn't just a cosmetic thing

It got flat and ugle

I was GIVEN free 365 for school..... and within a few days was back on 2010

docR

it wasn't just a cosmetic thing

And proper, yea

04:30

I refrain from any subscriptions on the net honestly

same

04:30

If its subscription, I do one of two things

04:30

one, look for an alternative

04:30

if that fails

04:30

~~piracy~~

Lol

04:31

I've been pirating since I discovered windows

04:31

That's like... a decade ago

I learned the dark arts about the seven deadly seas a few years in

04:31

also a decade ago

Clear as hell why I didn't do it b4... basically nothing supported linux back then

Betajyst4094

Clear as hell why I didn't do it b4... basically nothing supported linux back then

Firefox and OpenOffice

I mean multimedia

04:33

Only sub I've let myself go for is spotify

04:33

I feel shameful, but daamn it's good

04:34

Too many arguments here...

04:34

But one doesn't put google and free in the same sentence

04:34

04:35

Oh wait, you mean free as in money.. damn my GNUfied lexicon (edited)

04:37

Fair

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04:58

Find magnets of clean lossy encodes of albums, or FLAC if you're truly meticulous

04:58

But more word on this YouTube business and you'll awake to Vista6. 1

04:58

With MSFN as your homepage

04:58

For video

04:58

Audio is a little lackluster

04:59

It's only like 90 kb/s

04:59

That's weak even for aac

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Oh I can easily distinguish YouTube audio from say a clean 160+ kb/s encode

04:59

But

04:59

I can't differentiate between lossy

05:00

My facial hair is too trimmed for that

Be man, grow beard

Betajyst4094

Be man, grow beard

Beard covers jawline

05:00

Real men wear their trimmed Jaws with pride

Real men go beard

05:01

Anyway is there an srv2008 iso with updates up to 2019?

Beards can be cool, just not on me

Cuz you've got long hair?

I literally look like my pfp =D

I assumed so

Betajyst4094

Cuz you've got long hair?

Yeah having both would be scary

Fair

Betajyst4094

Anyway is there an srv2008 iso with updates up to 2019?

Anybodeh

This is kinda skatepunk/mid 00s. Both would look like sex offender registry

Registry of windows 98

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i look hot without a beard

05:03

me irl

I look like..... Character from a 2000s movie?

Ya all long haired

Betajyst4094

Ya all long haired

yeah my hair is like a girl's

05:04

thats me with my hair down

Got long hair too, but it's uh more masculine form (edited)

penguinz0 style hair

ApertureSketch

penguinz0 style hair

lol nah

05:05

his is really messy

ApertureSketch

penguinz0 style hair

Neanderthal style

mine's nice and clean at least

No it isnt

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Yes

Dont show your face on the net

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let's see you with that M4A1 in hand (edited)

Betajyst4094

Dont show your face on the net

You'll never bet a gf (or catfish) that way

05:06

Fuck no

I don't need a gf from the net lol

Not here

05:06

I'm literally ONLY anon on Discord, and I'm not changing that rule lol

You sure

most of the people i talk to already know my full name and what i look like so i dont really care

Girls from online are meh

Betajyst4094

Girls from online are meh

My gf begs to differ

i was listening to Josip On Deck - Anime Pu$$y on vintage 1970s sony headphones in this pic

She's like 10 year older than you isnt she

Michael

i was listening to Josip On Deck - Anime Pu$$y on vintage 1970s sony headphones in this pic

literal alpha male

I am just guessing

She turned me from cynical and depressed into actually very happy lol

Betajyst4094

She's like 10 year older than you isnt she

7.5

05:07

Your point?

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im from redneck land in kentucky, do you really think im a hippie?

Wow I did guess she is older

my family all totes shotguns

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domme mommy O.o

I look kinda like him, but more... Without sounding offensive more guyish and not teenager

05:08

lol

docR

I look kinda like him, but more... Without sounding offensive more guyish and not teenager

me?

I looked a lot like you when I was 16

docR

I looked a lot like you when I was 16

im 18 lol

05:08

i look younger though

I did too

Women age faster, but live longer

My face changed structurally when I was 19

05:09

It got like thinner

05:09

And I couldn't lose the 5 o'clock shadow lol

05:10

Now girls be saying I look like fucking Johnny Depp before he dyed himself fake tan

Total Windows Vista moment

05:11

You're 16?

05:11

I'm good at guessing

No Vista in the pic

05:11

Lame

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you look young

Not a year at least

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you look like a 13 year old in that pic

Michael

you look young

He doesnt for sure. if only you'd seen 19 year old me (edited)

Michael

you look like a 13 year old in that pic

14

my friends that i play basketball with are 13 and 14 and they look older than you

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damn i just lost

Goddamnit now I'm kinda obligated

im 5'8"

If fucking freedom is doing it

and i doubt i will grow any more

How to measure

ive been 5'8" for like 3 years (edited)

American numbur

Betajyst4094

American numbur

172.72cm i guess

05:13

according to google

How much is 194 cm in americun (edited)

05:13

Damn

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Who is euroman, screw europe

damn he tall

Dayum

its weird cuz my dad was really tall

05:14

but im short af

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That's you

my dad was a literal alpha male, he could play any instrument he got his hands on and could sing too

I look like that rn

he had long hair down to his waist and was tall

Unironically

Michael

my dad was a literal alpha male, he could play any instrument he got his hands on and could sing too

My dad loved linux

I been memed about it a lot

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MfhtXaSbCQ this is my dad

Inside The Song

Michael Shipley - If It Were Easy - From the Broken Spoke Songwrite...

I will not send a pic into this incel chamber, it's not safe

I am 5' 6" or 168 cm.

docR

I will not send a pic into this incel chamber, it's not safe

has winclient seen you?

Michael

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MfhtXaSbCQ this is my dad

Nice, man

Betajyst4094

Nice, man

yeah

No answer

he was an amazing musician and songwriter

On many occasions yes

he wrote songs for a lot of the now famous country artists

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That's why i cant learn assembly

back in the day (edited)

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your math checks out, i'm short af and know 7 programming languages

05:16

and been programming since i was 10

Your dad looks like a kind man

Betajyst4094

Your dad looks like a kind man

yeah

Kudos to him bro

everyone ive met that knew him spoke really highly of him

05:17

he was famous in nashville back then which is basically music city in the USA

Do I have to put on shades and my face mask and pic?

Michael

he was famous in nashville back then which is basically music city in the USA

https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Nashville

05:18

Is he responsible for this? /j (edited)

lol probably not

Man I love guitars

05:18

Wanna be playing one someday

Betajyst4094

Man I love guitars

i need to learn how to play mine

05:20

my uncle builds and repairs custom guitars for a living and he built me one from scratch a long time ago

05:20

i really want to learn to play it

I'm no anon freak, but discord legit frightens me

05:21

I have a Discord horror story

05:21

Who wants to hear

1

i think the worst experience ive ever had online was when i got ratted through a skype 0-day and had all of my accounts stolen

Betajyst4094

Wanna be playing one someday

My brother got one when he was 19, he was motivated enough to learn how to use it but then he just gave up since it was too complicated about a month later. He left it at my parents house and I still have it, but he lives in the capital now and either forgot to bring it with him or didn't want to :/

lesson learned, even if the guy's username is c00k13z.1nj3ct10n and he seems like a script kiddie, he may very well be a legit hacker

Michael

lesson learned, even if the guy's username is c00k13z.1nj3ct10n and he seems like a script kiddie, he may very well be a legit hacker

that was his actual username not even kidding

Wanna vc this story?

05:22

Lol

Why not

It's fucking funnier to say it

05:22

Okay I'll type

05:23

I'm laughing

it's 11:142 here

So

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11:00, plus 142 minutes

I used a bullshit ass alternative to YouTube I won't name that was filled with jackasses and retards, mostly the latter

05:23

I befriended a user and we started chatting on Discord every day

05:24

Seemed normal, just a little quirky and eccentric

05:24

Then he feels he can trust me and reveals some things to me

05:25

Like that he's a sex offender (un-ironically), wants to bang his sister, and hinted he had fantasies about 420ing (claims it was a meme)

05:25

I......

05:25

I fucking went apeshit

05:26

And deleted my old discord and entire online presence

05:26

Came back as daaaa doc

05:26

Yeah itbwas fucking vidlii

05:26

FUCK vidlii

docR

And deleted my old discord and entire online presence

what about vista7 too?

If I were rich and could buy vidlii, I would. Only to redirect them to 8chan, where they belong

Maybe you found edp445's vidlii account

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County did I mention Ali of one of my besties?

05:27

Him based

05:28

Freedom you interested in a site with vidlii aesthetic but without the retards and stricter?

05:28

Fair enough

05:29

1080p 3 hours, 10 gb file limit sound better?

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Him getting harassed by those vidtards is 1/2 the reason I left

1080p 3 hour blank videos recommended

But yeah that'd my discord horror story

05:30

If I saw that dude irl

05:30

I'd break his face

05:30

That shit haunted me

05:31

I want to actually hurt this one

05:32

Befriended someone only to learn Chris Hansen is stalking them

05:32

cocks shotgun

05:33

Idc how long I've known someone. They turn pervert weirdo incel on me, and I'll turn cut throat on your ass quicker than you can blink

05:33

05:34

---end rant---

05:34

Proceed ;p

05:35

It was kinda based tho, because it horrified me so much I sought a gf and better friend group

05:36

It was my version of Beyond Scared Straight, or whatever the show was called

05:36

Join an interest group

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my experience with women has been hell

We met because of our shared academic interests and music taste

05:37

Online, actually

05:37

Just as friends

Man you a tough guy

She asked me to date her a month in (edited)

05:37

Almost 2 years ago

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i cant really tell some of the stuff ive experienced cuz it would probably spark some police intervention

05:38

like i said, hell

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Being a teen sucks. You'll like your 20s more =DDD

Michael

i cant really tell some of the stuff ive experienced cuz it would probably spark some police intervention

Let me guess. You got maced

docR

Let me guess. You got maced

no not even close

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I have long hair, and I'm engaged

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i really dont wanna say it

Because being 20+ is

, being a teen is pepe_cringed

no haha

05:40

ill just not

05:41

ive never told anyone and i dont plan to

I've never asked out or been asked out until I was 21. Don't think too much about it

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Spit it out

05:41

wait wrong one

Did you break the law?

Michael

ive never told anyone and i dont plan to

spit it out

docR

Did you break the law?

i didnt

Or just get embarrassed?

maybe the other way around im not really sure how the law works there

Oh it can't be that bad

can you stop, its already tramuatizing as it is, it would make it worse to tell someone

We are definitely not random discord people with soperating system attachments

1

05:43

Jokes aside. Don't do anything that makes you uncomfortable

05:45

Alright leave him alone

05:46

The good freedpmboy who can't even install Vista

05:46

05:46

If I still had access

05:46

I'd send you ayymd invite code rn

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You're going to wake up to Windows 7 for saying that

docR

Dear Satan known as @wr3n , we pray and offer our petitions to you that you will bestow @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County's computer the ability to complete a successful install of Vista

I-I'm Satan?

Ren, not having a response in a reasonable amount of time just walks away, depressed

dirty rper

Deleted User

dirty rper

SPOILER

i believe in it

13:59

BTW my gpu had a stroke earlier and it got the 0000007a bsod like yours did

13:59

CAT PICTURE

13:59

BEST ACCOUNT PICTURE

The error is so vague you honestly can't pinpoint what's wrong exactly with it.

welcome to windows BSOD codes, we hope you enjoy your suffering!

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FUCK

14:48

Now this is starting to annoy even me

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County https://youtu.be/xQji1b6-VvM

Nacirema

Busdriver - pull the sky closer

15:46

Drivered

Freedom fr, this really strikes me as a GPU issue

17:51

My pain and suffering in the past was from using $20 Radium GPUs

20$

18:21

that alone sounds radioactive

well, i didn't actually pay $20

18:27

but thats about what they'd be worth

18:27

6670 I had

18:27

what a piece of shit it was

nvidia fx more like

18:30

nvidia fire xplosives (edited)

18:30

fx was so shit and hot

18:30

hot garbage

And then AMD FX.

indeed

18:41

and then amd fx (edited)

So anything with FX in the name

Vruh 2

nvidia fx more like

quadro fx 3500 which is the quadro version of the 7950 gtx in my windows xp retro laptop

not offhand, all i know is the driver verifier.

22:54

win+r then typing verifier will allow you to stress certain drivers.

22:56

possibly

"create standard settings", then "select driver names from a list".

23:08

but i have to ask, how are things without the network card?

i'm not sure. but can you get it to "display information about the currently verified drivers"?

01:35

the one that appears under "currently verified drivers"?

first try kbdclass.sys and kbdhid.sys

01:48

yeah

01:50

yeah

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Whats the hardware id

02:23

these drivers probably wont work but you can try them

Vista64.zip

406 KB

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one of these should work, in case the vista ones arent compatible i modded the XP ones

Atheros_Drivers.7z

3.83 MB

which iso are you using?

03:03

this is a good rollup: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=kb4474419

03:04

and then the IE stuff, i'll look up the procedure for that

03:05

this is it: https://msfn.org/board/topic/176902-enabling-tls-1112-support-in-vistas-internet-explorer-9/

Enabling TLS 1.1/1.2 support in Vista's Internet Explorer 9

As all of you Vista users surely know, IE9 is the last version of the MS supplied browser that can be installed on that OS. It has several prerequisites, notably KB948465 (SP2 for Vista SP1), KB971512 (Windows Graphics, Imaging, and XPS Library) and KB2117917 (Platform update supplement for Windo...

yeah

03:19

yes, it does. i used it to update server 2008

03:21

yeah

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County hows it going

03:35

it worky yet?

03:35

nvm i see that it is

03:35

how'd ya fix

03:37

oh?

03:37

fucking perphs were crashint it?

03:37

wut

03:37

well it works ig. you better like clonezilla this or easeus it

03:38

i can send you a ~~yaaar haaaar~~ easeus

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wut

03:38

what was the workaround?

03:39

wtf is kb verification

03:39

did win32 have you build a bomb

yeah it does and yeah.

i can give you an installer

03:47

works even on 7 and 8.1

03:47

for the games and dreamscene

03:48

and well. without extended kernel. isn't there a local stub you can use to run waterfox classic without patching the system?

03:48

win32's old kernel?

03:49

a based man would use g3

03:49

with one of firefox 3 or 4 userchrome

2 days for?

03:59

to download that repo?

04:00

also i'd use roytam1's serpent55 over 52.9

04:00

you can enable e10s

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multiprocess mode

04:30

it helps the browser not to be slow as fuck

freedom you need to connect WinDbg at this point lol

04:54

What was the culprit?

04:56

Kilobyte?

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LMAO

welp

05:54

time to play your next card

05:54

the server 2008 slip

05:54

i don't think you've burned through enough of those yet to warrant a mute

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I did it aswell.

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you need to patch WU to support sha2 and you can download them normally

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its in the pins

13:40

Vista_SHA2_WUC.zip

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That is DEFINITELY GPU

NT 6 deals with gpu's so well that my Windows 7 Build literally wipes out the MX150 out of my PC if I open up GPU-Z or GeForce Experience. Thankfully an easy fix is to restart and never open them, Thanks Microsoft. damnbro

ApertureSketch

NT 6 deals with gpu's so well that my Windows 7 Build literally wipes out the MX150 out of my PC if I open up GPU-Z or GeForce Experience. Thankfully an easy fix is to restart and never open them, Thanks Microsoft. damnbro

whats MX150

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

whats MX150

nvidia gpu

23:09

for laptops

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What does that driver have?

02:41

Oh, you top out at 342?

02:43

What GPU?

02:45

Oof, that's bad But don't worry, R3n is here to love you

wr3n

Oof, that's bad But don't worry, R3n is here to love you

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Good

the 2018 build doesn't connect anymore?

is it possible to spoof OS on vista

05:47

like with any tool at all

No

05:49

App verifier is the closest to what you want

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Mcfuckery

wtf

ded

desktop, right?

05:22

good.

buy ps2 and install linux on it

05:23

free pc

05:23

no

05:23

install windows 10 instead of vista

05:24

yes

ps2 has 32 mb of ram and a 294/299 mhz cpu anyway.

high speed

05:25

make a giant cluster of PS3's into one giant supercomputer

the input driver failure says that hardware is bad basically. it shouldn't happen on working hardware.

05:26

have you run a memtest recently? are other applications failing to load in the same way? weird, but nothing i can attribute to my files or Vista itself.

i mean the built in one works fine

05:27

it should be an option in windows boot manager iirc

05:27

hmm im not sure then

i was about to post that

how do you stop choppy windows when dragging them in vmware

22:30

and how do you just make windows vista in vmware faster altogether?

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

and how do you just make windows vista in vmware faster altogether?

Dont use a vm

22:31

its the bargain bin gpu drivers

WinDVD

Dont use a vm

my pc too new for vista

what specs

it bsods

22:31

on startup

yee

22:32

what mobo

22:32

and CPU

dell latituse e6540 with i7

22:32

16 gb ram

oh no

22:32

haswell

yep

in all fairness i got my haswell laptop to run vista mostly ok

22:33

sometimes some minor services dont start but logging out and back in fixes it

22:33

i mean you can try the experimental VirtualBox direct x drivers

22:33

probably wont be much better

ok

22:34

22:35

cpu

22:35

ram

22:36

gpu

22:36

@WinDVD

hmm

22:36

good news about the IGPU atleast

22:36

there is drivers for that

22:36

but no aero cause they are modded XP drivers

22:36

but works for games

WinDVD

good news about the IGPU atleast

oh and an AMD gpu

no driver

hmm

22:37

what bsod is it

22:37

if its 0X000001E try going into kernel debugging

its just a bsod with random codes

that solved it for me

WinDVD

that solved it for me

whats kernel debugging?

and if it boots with kernel debugging go into CMD and type bcdedit -set DEBUG on

sorry if im dumb

its in the F8 boot settings menu

22:38

where safe mode lives

22:38

i dont know exactly what it does but it fixed my haswell bsod

WinDVD

where safe mode lives

so do I need to go to the repair pc

22:39

options

?

22:39

just spam F8 on boot

or shift f10 in setup?

and go to debugging mode

22:39

no F8

22:39

its not bios

22:40

wait does the install media start

WinDVD

and go to debugging mode

so it's just where you would go for safe mode?

or does vista install itself bsod

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

so it's just where you would go for safe mode?

yee

WinDVD

wait does the install media start

yes

good then kernel debugging might fix it for you

WinDVD

or does vista install itself bsod

it has a bsod on the 2nd part of the install

22:40

when it boots off

ill bet its the debug mode

hard drive

WinDVD

ill bet its the debug mode

ok

you might be able to use install media to fix

I will try spam clicking f8

alr

and going to debug

you will need to do it every boot until you use the bcdedit cmd i sent earlier

22:41

it makes it go into kernel debugging mode by default

22:42

also expect some haswell bugs

22:42

like some services not starting

WinDVD

you might be able to use install media to fix

will this interfere with my win7 and win10 dual boot?

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

will this interfere with my win7 and win10 dual boot?

i mean as long as you dont format your partitions it should be fine

22:42

i use vista boot manager on my main pc

WinDVD

i mean as long as you dont format your partitions it should be fine

ok

WinDVD

i mean as long as you dont format your partitions it should be fine

one time I got it to work

22:43

thats when win10

22:43

was not on my pc

vista?

22:43

hmm

yes

maybe thats what caused the bsod for me too

22:44

all the pcs ive tried to install it on had 10 on them

22:44

but kernel debugging fixed it for me

22:44

not sure why

ima do the debug tho

afk for a bi

22:44

t

ok

back

WinDVD

back

need to eat dinner

22:54

but what happened is it was stuck on a black screen

22:54

with a mouse

22:54

@WinDVD

not sure

WinDVD

not sure

vista booted!

23:29

@WinDVD

23:29

I just restarted installation

23:30

now I need drivers

wifi installed!

00:02

and I just realized that in vista the gadgets icon thats in the

00:03

taskbar

00:03

has this random space between it and all the other tray icons

@WinDVD

where is a windows vista iso

01:24

thats completely up to date?

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?

01:26

I was just wondering if anyone

01:26

knew

01:26

ik

02:27

wait will this actually work in vista?

Some say so.

Unlikely

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

wait will this actually work in vista?

ive used intel hd 4000 on XP in the past so maybe?

03:00

4600 is haswell graphics right

03:00

i think it probably should

Not really, no. Given the history of fuckery between haswell and vista, it won't happen.

MassClaw

Not really, no. Given the history of fuckery between haswell and vista, it won't happen.

ok

oh and thanks for the iso

What do you mean?

03:58

Oh, just remembered nevermind. No problem i suppose. (edited)

MassClaw

Not really, no. Given the history of fuckery between haswell and vista, it won't happen.

rip

MassClaw

Not really, no. Given the history of fuckery between haswell and vista, it won't happen.

Michael

4600 is haswell graphics right

Yes

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

@WinDVD

jeez no need for 4 pings i was asleep

09:11

but otherwise very poggers

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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all the Intel HD drivers inside SDI dont work as they are just windows 7 drivers

09:12

atleast for that specific GPU

09:13

use this https://msfn.org/board/topic/182660-intel-hd-haswell-drivers-modded-for-vista/

Intel HD Haswell Drivers Modded For Vista

I modded the XP drivers for haswell IGPU to work on vista. aero doesnt work but there is probably a bypass available to force it on. i have only tested on Intel HD 4600 but should work on other haswell based gpu download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LVRpJRQd3kn9Jotb6I638vdPjysk30Vn/view?usp=...

09:13

no aero but you get 3D acceleration

Good.

WinDVD

atleast for that specific GPU

I will at for it (edited)

WinDVD

jeez no need for 4 pings i was asleep

sorry I think we have 2 different time zones

13:13

13:14

latest version of WinRar still works on Vista!

yeah i think it works on XP too

13:18

im not 100% sure tho

WinDVD

yeah i think it works on XP too

oh and also for the

13:18

modded drivers

13:18

what .exe do I need to run

13:18

?

there is no EXE

13:21

you install it via Device Manager

WinDVD

you install it via Device Manager

oh sorry I'm not the most technical person

Ey it's no big deal

13:27

You know how to do it right? If not i can help

WinDVD

You know how to do it right? If not i can help

I think

13:27

if I get stuck I will tell you

alr

?

he said alright

ok

WinDVD

alr

13:30

there is no driver tho

well it says there is?

13:30

does that driver have an error code?

WinDVD

does that driver have an error code?

right so just right click the driver and click uninstall

13:31

and then click delete driver software too

ok

then point to the folder you extracted the drivers to

WinDVD

then point to the folder you extracted the drivers to

ok

when you go to reinstall anyway

does vista support those at all though?

its not there anymore (edited)

not officially but i modded the XP drivers

13:32

right click the PC

13:32

and click for scan devices

WinDVD

not officially but i modded the XP drivers

Really? Nice, where can I get those

ima go afk for a sec

https://msfn.org/board/topic/182660-intel-hd-haswell-drivers-modded-for-vista/

Intel HD Haswell Drivers Modded For Vista

I modded the XP drivers for haswell IGPU to work on vista. aero doesnt work but there is probably a bypass available to force it on. i have only tested on Intel HD 4600 but should work on other haswell based gpu download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LVRpJRQd3kn9Jotb6I638vdPjysk30Vn/view?usp=...

it probably deleted the driver folder alıng with it

lodocus

it probably deleted the driver folder alıng with it

wdym

he said the driver folder is not there

its not in device manager but if you right click this and scan for hardware changes it will come back up

WinDVD

and click for scan devices

its there now

ah.

alr now try to install the drivers

13:35

should hopefully work as intended

13:35

which one is it

one of those is your intel HD

13:35

just try both

13:35

only 1 will work

ok

13:36

13:37

wait what

13:37

@WinDVD

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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That driver software stinks.

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

are you trying to just let it auto scan or are you pointing to a folder

13:39

1: go here

go to a folder

then go here

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

then click have disk

13:40

and browse to the INF file

13:41

none

huh?

odd

you extracted the files right?

yes

1 sec lemme ce

13:42

check the download

download it again?

wdym?

i may have posted the wrong download

13:43

not 100% sure

WinDVD

i may have posted the wrong download

wait

13:44

oh

13:44

it didnt fully extract

oh

ok got it now what

13:45

click ok right

WinDVD

oh

there is no 4600 in the list

It should show up as Intel Haswell Graphics GT2

ok

WinDVD

It should show up as Intel Haswell Graphics GT2

found it

13:48

It was a pain to get my old Intel IGPU driver on Windows 7 32bit.

WinDVD

It should show up as Intel Haswell Graphics GT2

says its installing

I was still not able to get it working on 64bit.

very pog

Deleted User

It was a pain to get my old Intel IGPU driver on Windows 7 32bit.

how old we talking here

82915G/GV/910gl

hopefully this works

it should

Deleted User

82915G/GV/910gl

hmmm ibet i could find you drivers

Don't think it should work juat like that.It may bluescreen.

do you still need them for 64 bit?

WinDVD

do you still need them for 64 bit?

Nah.I have my dedicated GPU now.

ah alr

Also I found the driver on Driver.Ru.

13:51

I may try it some time.

that site is er.... crispy

13:51

is it legit?

I didn't try it.,I mean the driver. (edited)

It's awesome, dude

its in russian tho

WinDVD

its in russian tho

Translate it then.

13:52

Because I know cyrilic,I don't have to translate it :D

also does vista work on haswell with no problems if its the X86 version?

Use page translate if you're in chrome/chromium/

WinDVD

it should

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

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whats the code?

why are both now intel

WinDVD

also does vista work on haswell with no problems if its the X86 version?

XP works aswell I belive.

did you do it on both?

WinDVD

did you do it on both?

no

hmm

only on 1

what is the dev manager code

Use the same driver then.

13:53

It may recognize it.

WinDVD

what is the dev manager code

13:53

39

hmm thats very strange

well code 39

it worked for me

is it because I have 2

13:54

gpus

13:54

in my laptop?

im not sure

13:54

whats the GPU?

I don't think it is that.

other than the IGPU

13:55

if its haswell era there may be drivers

WinDVD

whats the GPU?

I have a 4600

13:55

I think (edited)

no i mean the other GPU

just a weird amd

13:55

one

APU?

I will boot into windows 10 tell you the name

alr

WinDVD

alr

AMD Radeon HD 8790M

I have no expirence with AMD GPU's.

ill look around

I mean I know almost no models. (edited)

gimme a bit

WinDVD

gimme a bit

ok

13:58

does the issue have to do with debug mode?

13:58

maybe

I don't think so.

13:59

Is that the mode that gives you the watermark? (edited)

Deleted User

Is that the mode that gives you the watermark? (edited)

no

this is looking good as people have gotten 2015 drivers working

13:59

so yeah

Is there an XP driver?

I'd get extended kernel

13:59

not sure

WinDVD

this is looking good as people have gotten 2015 drivers working

thank you for helping me!

i dont think so

WinDVD

I'd get extended kernel

hmmm

14:00

I feel like thats risky

https://msfn.org/board/topic/173175-catalyst-1412-omega-on-vista/

Catalyst 14.12 ("Omega") on Vista

I realize that the number of people running Vista is quite small and the ones running Vista with a recentAMD Radeon is smaller still. But I wanted to share a modification for making Catalyst 14.12work on Vista since the last release officially supported for Vista was Cat 13.12.It seems like this ...

14:00

follow that guide

14:00

actually wait

14:00

vista fully supports 13.12

14:00

that might support your gpu 1 sec

14:01

lemme check

14:02

nvm you need 14.12 i believe

14:02

try 13.12 first tho it may work

14:03

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-13-12-whql-download.html

Download the AMD Catalyst 13.12 WHQL (13.251.0.0 December 6) driver. This Beta driver works with Windows 7, 8 and 8.1....

14:04

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙

ok

WinDVD

try 13.12 first tho it may work

14:06

it says for 7

14:06

8

14:06

8.1

scroll down

14:06

WinDVD

scroll down

oh and maybe that driver is working

14:06

the modded one

wait really?

because

14:07

it says it has an error

well get the amd driver working its better than your IGPU

but my computer BOOTS UP in 1920x1080

ok

14:08

i dont get what you mean

without the driver it used to boot up in

14:08

1200x1024 (edited)

hmm

14:08

maybe it is then

14:09

but still the amd gpu has way more power than intel hd 4600

its extracting

14:10

setup launched

very good sign

14:11

lets hope this works

14:11

oh

if it works you should get Aero

?

14:12

did you run as admin

I dont think so

14:12

let me try that

run as admin

14:13

if it doesnt work change the install folder

invalid folder

press browse and select a new folder

invalid folder

?? that is very strange

14:15

just open the EXE in winrar/7zip

14:15

and run setup manually

?

like extract the files inside of the exe into a folder

oh

here ill show you

Ok

14:16

do that on the exe

ok

WinDVD

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ah you are missing Visual C++

Install vcredist

WinDVD

ah you are missing Visual C++

oh

yes do that

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

Visual C++ Redistributable Runtimes All-in-One (May 2021) Download

This archive contains the latest version (May 2021) of all VCRedist Visual Studio C++ runtimes, installable with a single click by running the includ

Betajyst4094

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

will the 2021 work on Vista tho

the ones that wont will just not install

Yeah it's batch script based

WinDVD

the ones that wont will just not install

14:20

which one

run install_all.bat

do I open

14:20

ok

14:20

???

its in there tho

14:21

ohhh

just run them manually i guess lol

do I need to extract

yeah you do

14:21

thats a very important part

14:21

i hope you have been extracting all those programs fully

14:21

otherwise they dont work

WinDVD

i hope you have been extracting all those programs fully

I have

alr good

14:23

ummmmmm

ah classic haswell issues

14:23

just go into services.msc and start it

ok

search it in program search

I just use run

it works lol

looks like they are installing!

14:26

they installed

14:26

now run the app

very poggers

invalid folder

14:29

ran as admin

14:29

@WinDVD

can you show me the folder?

yes

the driver software folder

go to bin64 and run radeonsetup

14:32

worst case you might have to install thru device manager again

it might not be called radeonsetup in this version

how about just normal setup in bin64

try that

ATIsetup maybe

no not ati setup

14:33

if all else fails there is MSI installers in the "Packages" folder

im trying normal setup in bin 64

WinDVD

if all else fails there is MSI installers in the "Packages" folder

im going to try them

WinDVD

if all else fails there is MSI installers in the "Packages" folder

apps or drivers?

14:34

drivers

14:36

then display

14:36

now i noticed something

14:36

dont run the MSI yet

ok

14:37

what did you notice?

replace the INF in yours with this one

C7165817.inf

184.4 KB

14:37

if this doesnt work then these are the wrong drivers

in what folder?

in the drivers folder

is the .inf in?

14:37

ok

then display

14:38

and dont use the msi use device manager

WinDVD

in the drivers folder

the driver folder or the display?

ahh

14:38

I see

14:39

and then run

14:39

the msi right

no

14:39

use device manager

14:39

actually wait

ok

try the MSI first

14:39

if it doesnt work then use device manager

which one?

14:40

there are 3

C7165817.msi

ook

and replace the inf

14:40

with the one i sent

I already replaced

pog

14:41

@WinDVD

yep i figured

14:41

use devmanager

navigate to the .inf right

if that doesnt work then ill find another driver that SHOULD work 100%

14:42

yeah

in dev man

yep

14:47

did it work?

cant find it in the list (edited)

?

14:48

just check "show compatible devices"

the name

14:48

its not there

WinDVD

just check "show compatible devices"

ok

14:48

wait

14:48

how

14:48

click "browse my computer for software and navigate to the folder where the INFis

ok

dont use the manual inf select

14:49

it should auto find it

14:51

why windows whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

14:51

@WinDVD

i am so confused

14:51

WAIT

what

did you disable driver signature enforcement?

WinDVD

did you disable driver signature enforcement?

what is that

if not run command prompt as admin and run bcdedit -set NOINTEGRITYCHECKS on

14:52

and bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING on

thats good

the INTEL DRIVER WORKED

14:53

ITS THE INTEL CONTROL PANEL

Alr

14:53

thats good

14:53

still you will need to disable driver sig enforcement and enable testsigning

ok

so you can have Aero

14:54

after running the commands reboot and you should see the build number and stuff

ok

14:54

so

14:54

now try to

14:54

find the driver

14:55

@WinDVD

14:55

wait I still need to reboot

14:55

oops (edited)

oki

ok

14:58

I'm in

14:58

is it normal that in test mode you need to

14:58

open explorer manully

no its haswell issues

ok

14:59

oh and intel

14:59

is not there anymore

hmm

14:59

thats fine

ok back to amd

14:59

ima try now

15:00

@WinDVD

15:00

ohhh

?

try both of them

15:01

one should legit work

15:01

if not

15:01

agony

what do you mean by both? (edited)

you have 2 without drivers?

no

wait theres only 1 now?

one of then are the intel

oh alright

15:02

hmmmm then its the drivers

15:03

well

15:03

time to follow the 14.12 install guide

is there any way to force debug mode on startup

15:03

so haswell can work

15:03

without spamming F8 (edited)

15:04

on startup

yes

how

open cmd as admin and type bcdedit -set DEBUG on

thank you

www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2335392/manually-installing-latest-amd-catalyst-drivers-windows-vista.html

15:10

well by latest they mean 2014 drivers

15:10

its an old article

15:11

btw dont use the link to download from amd's site

15:11

it will only give you 2020 drivers and thats too new for vista

15:12

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-14-9-whql-(14-301-1001-september-15)-download.html

Download AMD Catalyst 14.9 WHQL (14.301.1001.0 September 15) driver. This driver is WHQL signed and works with Windows 7 and 8.1....

15:12

this should hopefully work

WinDVD

time to follow the 14.12 install guide

ok

follow the guide i linked at toms hardware

14.9 should work yeah

WinDVD

follow the guide i linked at toms hardware

dang it

15:15

it installed in my windows 10

15:16

drive

well

15:16

wait installed what

its ok tho

15:17

it only extracted to there

15:17

INVALID FOLDER

15:17

@WinDVD

what the frick

15:17

well

ran as admin

15:18

btw

i dont know why its doing that it extracts fine for me on vista

15:18

maybe some strange haswell issue

it extracts fine

15:18

it does that on the install

i mean it installs fine*

15:18

what is the folder its trying to install too

WinDVD

maybe some strange haswell issue

no it did this to me on windows 7 also

WinDVD

what is the folder its trying to install too

A:\Program Files\ATI Technologies

there is the issue right there

ok

oh

15:20

so try c:

yeah

15:20

why did you try to install to A:

thats the partion that vista is on

w h a t

you installed vista to A:

yep even tho I chose for the letter to be E:

very very strange

Bad idea

ig disk management said no

15:22

ok I did c:

15:22

and now it works

15:22

im so dumb

lol its no big deal

15:23

its going

15:23

oh

15:24

and about the test mode will I need to keep that on?

you probably dont need to but i have it on anyway

15:24

it doesnt break anything as far as im aware

WinDVD

you probably dont need to but i have it on anyway

I just dont like the watermark

i mean its only on the desktop

true

15:25

but it just

and i prefer it cause it tells me my build number

I like a clean desktop

WinDVD

and i prefer it cause it tells me my build number

winver

i mean hey, if you wanna do it go ahead

15:26

just do the same command as before but instead of "on" do "off"

keep driver sig enforcement disabled tho

ok

yee now you need to do the hard part

WinDVD

keep driver sig enforcement disabled tho

which command it that one

15:27

is it -set NOINTEGRITYCHECKS on

yeah

15:27

leave it how it is now

ok

15:28

and just change the other

15:28

one

yep

WinDVD

yee now you need to do the hard part

what is that

15:29

is that the other part of the guide

15:29

oh it is

15:29

ok

yea

15:37

would I need to change x86 to x64

15:38

?

15:38

@WinDVD

hold on 1 sec

ok

[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]

15:39

is the one for 64 bit

ok

15:39

and change 6.1 to 6.0 right?

yea do what the guide says to do

ok

to the letter

wanted to make

15:40

sure I was doing it

15:40

correctly

15:46

installing

15:46

@WinDVD

very poggers

15:47

restart and see if it works

ima be

15:49

afk

15:49

but

15:49

it booted in 1920x1080

15:49

but no aero

15:49

@WinDVD

set aero in themes

15:50

it should work then

15:55

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 did it work?

DID IT WORK???

we will never know

I said I would be afk

16:49

@WinDVD

16:49

there is no aero option

16:50

@WinDVD

does it show up in device manager with no error codes

16:51

also you dont need to ping me twice

WinDVD

does it show up in device manager with no error codes

it shows this

WinDVD

does it show up in device manager with no error codes

oh no

16:51

MY INTEL IS NOW AMD

w h a t

oh and

bro what did you do

you installed it exactly how it said right?

thats what happens when I open AMD control center

16:52

or properties

WinDVD

you installed it exactly how it said right?

yes

you also modded the right INF file right?

yes

16:53

I changed 6.1 to 6.0

16:53

error also

huh

16:54

why are there 2 different ones

but intel is just no

what error code

16:54

also can you copy both their hardware id's in details

I think the drivers are conflicting

WinDVD

why are there 2 different ones

my intel got changed to amd

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

my intel got changed to amd

yeah but its not the same as the other one which is strange

16:54

go into the properties

16:55

and what error code does it say

31 and 43

16:55

is the error codes

43

16:55

thats different

16:55

lemme google it

ok

the one that says 43 uninstall and check delete in the uninstall menu

ok

if it doesnt work after that then do it the other way around

uninstalling

16:57

still uninstalling

16:58

I don't think it should take this long

it should

ok its done

there are 131mb of drivers files

now what

now reboot

16:59

and if it still has the error on the other one then uninstall the other one and reinstall the drivers on the one you just uninstalled now

16:59

that looks confusing lol

ok

17:00

how

17:00

do you reinstall

17:00

the other one

17:01

(the one I did not uninstall has error code 39

wait you said error 31

17:01

bruh

what

17:01

it changed

17:01

or I misstyped

17:02

one of those

alright delete it then and install the driver onto the one that you uninstalled before

17:02

dont manually select the inf

17:02

let it scan the folder for the driver

uninstalling

alr

now what

install the driver onto the other one

17:05

again dont select the have disk one

17:05

do the one where it scans the specified folder

the best driver is already installed

can you send a screenshot of what device manager looks like now

lol (edited)

alright, so do the have disk way, but only install the driver if it says its specifically for the 8790M and doesnt give a popup about how the driver isnt compatible

17:10

and may not work

17:10

if it says this do not install it

?

17:11

ohhh

17:13

im installing the one

alright

for 8790m

17:14

code 31

17:14

error

17:14

@WinDVD

it didnt say the error above?

no

if it didnt then it should be the right hardware id

17:15

that means the driver doesnt work

it should though

17:16

you changed the N.T 6.0 section that was empty at the very bottom of the INF to 6.1 right?

17:16

here just send me the inf

17:16

and ill take a look

C7176154.inf

345.19 KB

17:17

CU176117.inf

41.59 KB

17:17

CU176154.inf

346.73 KB

17:17

those are the ones

try this INF here

C7176154.inf

345.19 KB

17:18

it should HOPEFULLY work now

errors

17:22

whaat??

do you think we

17:23

messed with it too much

wait

it also did this when I

i might have sent the wrong one

tryed the older one again

WinDVD

i might have sent the wrong one

ok

nvm

17:24

i dont know why its not working

it should but it isnt

17:24

well

17:24

basic display driver gang i guess :(

17:25

i too have no drivers since my gpu is from 2016

should I try to reboot

17:25

maybe

i mean its worth a shot

its trying to install

well i mean thats a good sign

rebooted and got an error

17:31

yay

17:33

OK

17:33

that was the older one

17:34

that I tryed that gave that error

17:34

now

well

17:36

im out of ideas

this is what happens when I reboot:

someone else may know more about this here

ah

17:36

missing function

oh

aka time for extended kernel

17:37

lol

17:37

you are fully updated right?

yes

to what level

I used the uptodate iso

2017 or 2019

17:37

so 2017

17:37

hmm

from the google drive

http://win32.eclipse.cx/download.html

aka this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

WindowsVistax64Uptodate.iso

im not sure this will work on 2017 update level

17:39

i know

17:39

i dont know if win32 killed support for 2017 update level yet

I think ima have to go

oh

AERO BASIC

yes

Mode

17:39

looks awful tho

17:39

really

17:40

so yeah

well

i mean if you want to try to install extended kernel it may fix the missing function

I don't want to risk break windows

17:40

wait will it

17:40

?

worst case you have to do a reinstall

17:41

i mean there is a premade extended kernel install iso

WinDVD

worst case you have to do a reinstall

I mean I do also have a win10

17:41

drive

wait i forgot

what?

you installed on A: didnt you

If you used the up to date iso, absolutely nothing will go wrong

no c:

exkernel wont break windows. you dont use cmd or something to install them anymore. you just run the install.bat as admin to install

last time I did

your system needs to be updated to 2017 and 64 bit

I fixed it remember

i mean the december release trashed my windows vista install

17:42

it was the uptodate iso

Betajyst4094

If you used the up to date iso, absolutely nothing will go wrong

Make sure you have installed the update specified on win32.eclipse.cx

i assume may release fixed it tho

WinDVD

you installed on A: didnt you

I installed it on c

WinDVD

i mean the december release trashed my windows vista install

It killed a vm of mine too, probably because it requires updates up to 2019

soooo yeah

Does uptodate have 2019 updates?

I mean that driver was never meant to run on vista

WinDVD

Does uptodate have 2019 updates?

idk

yeah but people have gotten it working

17:43

they have even gotten 14.12 working

WinDVD

they have even gotten 14.12 working

odd

i certainly dont think any iso out there is updated

wdym

17:44

there is an up to date iso in the pins

i said out there

could just use (edited)

wdym out there

17:45

out where

in the websites

oh

the exkernel iso

yeah

17:45

but you would need to do a clean install of vista

WinDVD

but you would need to do a clean install of vista

man

17:45

I just installed this one last night

i mean hey

17:46

i dont know why it isnt working

and there is a chance of it not working

it should be ok on vista but its not

17:46

i dont have a 2014 amd gpu to test either

17:46

so idk

who else would know?

17:47

wait if I do a clean install

17:47

of exkernel

17:47

there is a chance of

17:48

drivers still not working

ofc there is no guarantee its gonna work

yeah

it could just do the same

17:48

but exkernel is nice to have anyway

17:48

modern browser on vista

true

17:48

should I clean install?

i mean its up to you

17:49

do you want to clean install

yes

17:49

why not

poggers

debug mode works on exkernel iso right? (edited)

17:54

@WinDVD

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

debug mode works on exkernel iso right? (edited)

yes

17:58

it works on all vista ISOs

I cant nvm

18:11

no setup.exe

18:11

see I dont use usbs

18:12

so I just run setup

18:12

but there is none

18:13

so yeah

18:16

@WinDVD

18:17

or I could put the files in manully

18:17

from my windows 10 drive

what

18:17

you have to do clean install

18:17

for exkernel iso

18:17

and there should be a setup.exe anyway

WinDVD

for exkernel iso

no I could put the exkernel

18:18

files

18:18

in vista

18:18

by doing it manually

18:18

@WinDVD

why not run the .bat installer at that point

?

you could just run the installer bat file?

theres a .bat installer

18:19

where

you dont need to manually replace files anymore

18:19

http://win32.eclipse.cx/

ok

WinDVD

you dont need to manually replace files anymore

will this work with a version of vista thats updated to 2017 tho

im not 100%

hmmmmm

it should but i am not 100% certain on it

ok is the file in downloads?

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

will this work with a version of vista thats updated to 2017 tho

Install the update mentioned on the downloads list

yeah

Then proceed with exkernel

yeah

18:21

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=kb4474419

Betajyst4094

Install the update mentioned on the downloads list

it says its for 7

get the one for server 2008 NOT R2 VERSION

so just server 2008

18:22

?

yes

installing

poggers

now what

18:27

the top or the bottom one?

top one

18:27

the bottom one fixes video for firefox iirc

ok

WinDVD

the bottom one fixes video for firefox iirc

ok

18:28

downloading

18:29

now where is the .bat in the folder?

you should see it

18:29

its says something like extendedkernelsetup.bat

18:29

or something like that

stuck at 99% downloading

18:29

in MEGA

give it a sec

18:30

wait dont tell me you downloaded the whole folder

it says 100%

18:30

oh

b r u h

qehu98fthjrhtihtritjr2qr

ill just upload it here lol

WinDVD

b r u h

ok i exitED MEGA

WinDVD

ill just upload it here lol

ok

vistaexkernsetup_05142021.7z

9.29 MB

ok

18:34

so run vistaexkernelsetup.bat as admin? (edited)

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

so run vistaexkernelsetup.bat as admin? (edited)

yes

error

18:35

the request is not supported

18:35

@WinDVD

18:36

ok

18:37

wait I ran it again and now its working

18:37

wait

poggers

oh

WinDVD

poggers

it broke vista

what error

cant take screen shots

yes

its about

18:38

UxTheme

18:38

not being found

18:38

I cant

18:38

dont have my phone

18:39

with me

18:39

no like

18:39

its being repaired

18:39

ok

bruh

18:39

well i mean it was a haswell install

18:39

so

it just SPAMMED the system could not find the file

18:40

clean install yay

18:40

I cant

18:40

dont have pe

18:40

I dont have a usb drive

18:41

im going to clean install

how are you going to clean install without a usb

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

running setup .exe

18:41

from windows 10

exkernel iso doesnt work with inplace upgrade

yep I did

18:42

I could not do anything else tho

you dont have a spare flashdrive laying around?

18:42

it would make life alot easier

WinDVD

you dont have a spare flashdrive laying around?

I do but I lost it

it would be a good idea to look for it

I was cleaning my room and

18:43

yeah

welp

18:43

ima go AFK

bruh

18:44

it was PLUGGED IN MY PC

is there usb 3.0 drivers for vista

19:03

?

19:04

my pc: dell latitude e6540 (max spec) from 2014 haswell

XHCI.zip

807.77 KB

19:06

there you go @Dean's Tech Corner🌙

thank you

19:06

im going to

19:06

install exkernel btw

oki

@WinDVD

19:06

I found the usb

very pog

WinDVD

very pog

it was plugged in my computer

lol wait what

in the back of it

you didnt notice it?

so I could not see it

WinDVD

you didnt notice it?

nope

it should have showed up in explorer

19:07

tho

it did not

19:08

idk why

19:08

I unplugged it

hmm

and then plugged it in and then it started to work

alr

rufus time

yes

(because I found the drive and there is NO setup.exe in the exkernel iso) (edited)

that is strange it should have a setup.exe im pretty sure

WinDVD

that is strange it should have a setup.exe im pretty sure

it did not

hmm maybe not

WinDVD

that is strange it should have a setup.exe im pretty sure

ye i checked just now i saw it

WinDVD

ye i checked just now i saw it

is that normal for not to have it?

19:12

at least for the exkernel iso

yes

ok

WinDVD

yes

oh and another question can I put other files on the usb

19:13

while the setup files are there?

if you want to yes

WinDVD

if you want to yes

oh and also your afk status is still there

oop

80%

19:18

for rufus

19:19

90%

19:21

99%

19:21

99.9

19:22

still at 99.9

19:23

@WinDVD its been at 99.9

19:23

for a while

19:23

is this because there is no setup.exe

What iso

and rufus does not know what to do

Betajyst4094

What iso

exkernel

19:24

5.5

Oh

19:24

Because it's huge

ah

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

@WinDVD its been at 99.9

give it awhile

19:25

it just takes a bit

ok

19:26

done

19:26

booting to it

19:26

so afk

WinDVD

give it awhile

sooo

20:22

got the iso installed and

20:22

took 10 minutes to install

20:23

and about 30 minutes dealing with haswell issues

20:23

got extended kernel installed tho

20:23

@WinDVD

alright

20:23

bro if you reply it pings me

20:24

you dont need to double ping lol

oh

20:24

I didnt know

its fine lol

so

ima be afk for just a quick bit

will amd drivers work tho

20:24

hmmmmmmmmm

ima get on my laptop

20:24

you can try the guide again

WinDVD

ima be afk for just a quick bit

ok

maybe with a different version

WinDVD

Click to see attachment 🖼️

oh and where

20:28

do I install that

20:28

would it be in

device manager

seirl bus drivers

nah

where

it should be one of the unknown devices

ok

20:29

so the 5th one

probably the usb one

ok

if it isnt then just try all of em

20:30

also if you have realtek ethernet there is probably a working driver availible

WinDVD

also if you have realtek ethernet there is probably a working driver availible

I dont use ethernet

20:30

pogger

20:31

s

something worked today

yee those drivers are specifically ported to vista tho

WinDVD

yee those drivers are specifically ported to vista tho

true

hmm

what

now i guess its time for the moment of truth

20:32

gpu drivers

OH HECK--

we should try a bit of an older driver this time

20:33

not too old tho

need to find intel for the first one

intel

WinDVD

we should try a bit of an older driver this time

I am on extended kernel this time tho

btw are you 100% sure its intel hd 4600?

WinDVD

btw are you 100% sure its intel hd 4600?

thats what windows 10 said

hmm then it should be accurate

WinDVD

hmm then it should be accurate

did you find it

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

did you find it

the ones i sent before should work

WinDVD

the ones i sent before should work

ok

though again if that incompatible driver popup comes up dont install it

20:37

here is some nice windows 7 sample music jazz to listen to while drivers install

can you re-send the

20:37

drivers

yee 1 sec

20:37

https://msfn.org/board/topic/182660-intel-hd-haswell-drivers-modded-for-vista/

Intel HD Haswell Drivers Modded For Vista

I modded the XP drivers for haswell IGPU to work on vista. aero doesnt work but there is probably a bypass available to force it on. i have only tested on Intel HD 4600 but should work on other haswell based gpu download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LVRpJRQd3kn9Jotb6I638vdPjysk30Vn/view?usp=...

WinDVD

https://msfn.org/board/topic/182660-intel-hd-haswell-drivers-modded-for-vista/

its working (edited)

wait really

well the download

oh lol

lets try the INSTALL

oh no

20:39

well i hope it works this time

what app do I run

20:40

or do I use dev man

20:40

?

yeah

ok

remember

20:40

the popup

what pop-up?

dont install if it says this it will just bork the drivers

ok

you have to pick one thats compatible with your gpu

WinDVD

you have to pick one thats compatible with your gpu

what would the 4600

20:42

be?

Intel Haswell GT2 was the one that worked for me

20:43

on 4600

WinDVD

dont install if it says this it will just bork the drivers

aw man

20:43

got the pop up

well try all of them in the list

ok

one of them wont say it

20:44

by in the list i mean the device list after you select have disk

ik

WinDVD

one of them wont say it

they all said it

dang

should I try the other gpu

20:46

because

can you send me your HWID

sure

wait

I have

nvm send the id

them

pog

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028&REV_00

20:47

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028

thats your radeon card

20:47

the first one

ohhhhhhh

try the other one

installing

pog

aw man

20:49

@WinDVD

20:49

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

disable driver sig enforcement

ok

20:49

wait give me the command again

bcdedit -set NOINTEGRITYCHECKS on

I wish it was off auto

?

20:50

wdym

I wish

20:50

bcdedit -set NOINTEGRITYCHECKS on

20:51

was on automaticlly

its a windows thing

ok

20:51

I entered it

20:51

do I reboot

they decided to force 64bit drivers to require a licence

20:51

yes reboot

WinDVD

they decided to force 64bit drivers to require a licence

boooooooooooooooooo

x86 doesnt need driver enforcement according to microsoft

20:51

dont know why tbh

ok

20:55

intel

20:55

control panel

20:55

is in the taskbar

20:55

@WinDVD

it installed right?

20:55

does device manager show any errors?

I think all I did was restart

20:56

no

good

20:56

then its installed right

20:56

now for the radeon drivers

for aero

WinDVD

for aero

ok

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

see no error

very pog

now AMD (edited)

yes

20:57

hmm

WinDVD

then its installed right

see we are ALREADY getting father with extended kernel

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-14-8-whql-(14-201-1008-august-12)-download.html

Download AMD Catalyst 14.8 WHQL (14.201.1008 August 12) driver. This driver is WHQL signed and works with Windows 7 and 8.1....

20:59

try this

20:59

with the toms guide

ok

https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq/manually-installing-the-latest-amd-catalyst-drivers-on-windows-vista.2002767/

Manually installing the latest AMD Catalyst drivers on Windows Vista

As you may have discovered, the newest version of AMD catalyst available for Windows Vista is Catalyst 13.12. Now there are many reasons why you might want to run a newer version of Catalyst. For example: To take advantage of the newest fixes and improvements in newer drivers To support a...

WinDVD

with the toms guide

wait but wouldn't extended kernel take care of that?

no

ok

it doesnt patch that far lol

21:03

oh yeah and here is the 64bit driver string [ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]

installing

21:10

@WinDVD

pog

WinDVD

pog

aero not available

what does device manager say

error 43

hmm

21:14

im not sure

ok

21:15

unspecified problem? very ominous

21:16

ummmm

21:16

are you good vista

intel GPU drivers lol

21:18

either haswell issues or gpu drivers having a stroke

21:19

probably both

WinDVD

intel GPU drivers lol

im in windows 10 now (edited)

21:21

vista

21:21

will not boot

21:21

it is stuck booting

21:22

@WinDVD

21:22

at least I think

what

21:22

i dunno man

WinDVD

i dunno man

it is stuck on the loading bar

21:23

should I try booting vista again

21:24

ima try rebooting

oki

WinDVD

oki

Windows 10 won’t boot now

why not?

Wait it’s booting

i mean hey worst case just get windows 10 install media and run system restore

Trying to at least

WinDVD

i mean hey worst case just get windows 10 install media and run system restore

21:40

Chkdisk

21:40

@WinDVD

21:40

Yay

WinDVD

i mean hey worst case just get windows 10 install media and run system restore

windows 10 is up

21:45

now I need to check vista

WinDVD

i mean hey worst case just get windows 10 install media and run system restore

ok vista works

21:49

both work now yay

I hate companies that made chips and drivers. (edited)

Deleted User

I hate companies that made chips and drivers. (edited)

?

Vista was really badly took care of.

21:51

Drivers were one of the things that Vista didn't succeed.

im back

21:52

ikr vista should have gotten drivers till 2017 atlease

21:52

xp got drivers til EOL but not vista

21:52

i guess not enough users

WinDVD

ikr vista should have gotten drivers till 2017 atlease

I think that was a haswell moment

?

with the

oh yeah

weird display

I though Haswell was relased back in 2015.

with intel being the main cpu to use in 2014 haswell not working was probably a big deal

21:53

also no haswell is 2014

Alright.

21:53

I was closer.

WinDVD

also no haswell is 2014

wait haswell was not made in 2014

my 2014 laptop is haswell

same

wait its 2013

My desktop is Prescott XD

WinDVD

unspecified problem? very ominous

yeah

21:55

even tho Vista has issues with haswell

21:55

it's still crazy that we can

21:56

run unsupported hardware

true

21:56

i still cant believe 3rd gen ryzen works on vista

WinDVD

true

oh and also why does DEBUG MODE out of all things make unsupported hardware work?

Windows 7 is just Vista with few more steps.

Deleted User

Windows 7 is just Vista with few more steps.

yeah

Also Windows 7 runs on Ryzen 9.

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

oh and also why does DEBUG MODE out of all things make unsupported hardware work?

i dont know, even my supported sandy bridge system needed debug mode

So I'm not suprised.

WinDVD

i dont know, even my supported sandy bridge system needed debug mode

hmm

Last chipset officially supported on Windows 7 is X470. (edited)

21:57

But that's not the topic.

hmm

WinDVD

i dont know, even my supported sandy bridge system needed debug mode

oh and btw how did you find out that debug mode made it work?

just experimenting with recovery options when i kept getting the bsod

I should try the same with Windows 7 and my old integrated graphics.

you got 0x000001e bsod?

WinDVD

just experimenting with recovery options when i kept getting the bsod

ohh

WinDVD

you got 0x000001e bsod?

Nah.

22:01

Can't install the driver.

debug mode solves that issue with the bsod* (edited)

22:02

its actually called kernel debugging mode

22:02

but still

Oh.

22:03

Alright then.

WinDVD

im not sure

kind of sad that we couldn't get aero to work

22:07

but I got 3d graphics to work

true

22:10

maybe 1 day we can get the drivers working

WinDVD

maybe 1 day we can get the drivers working

maybe

22:12

I mean now I can use

22:13

2 monitors

poggers

23:49

does anyone see the issue in this photo

23:50

if you dont

23:50

the issue is that my screen is too vibrant (edited)

23:50

@WinDVD

looks fine to me

23:51

i mean you can adjust screen settings in intel control panel

WinDVD

looks fine to me

ima plug in my other monitor

its your monitor

and see if my screen has an issue

its a latptop

23:52

laptop*

23:52

so changing monitor settings has to be done thru software

no I have an externel monitor

oh

its a screen issue

i figured

haswell moment

Hey at least core functions of the system still work.

MassClaw

Hey at least core functions of the system still work.

yeah

02:20

EVERYTHING works but

02:20

some services won't boot

02:21

and sometimes you need to manually start explorer but apart from that it works

Wait up

02:27

What GPU

02:27

Is it HD 4600 or a dGPU?

docR

Is it HD 4600 or a dGPU?

4600

Hmmm

02:31

Try a few different driver versions?

WinDVD

debug mode solves that issue with the bsod* (edited)

wait really

Vruh 2

wait really

it did for me anyway

docR

Try a few different driver versions?

there are no different driver versions as there is no vista drivers, only like 1 xp driver available and that's the one they have

Oh, you're on Vista. Pardon I didn't pay attention to the channel

02:37

Well.... Yeah

02:38

3d test on standard video driver = ⬆️

oh no

02:38

reminds me of when i booted cms 2021 on basic driver

02:38

the 2d menu had 2 fps

You don't have any video card you can use? Can't pull a low power card off some throw away pc?

i mean its not my gpu thats missing and they have a 2013 radeon GPU

Yikes, but that's still a lot better than nothing lol

02:39

Put it in

but the 14.x drivers dont workl

02:39

also

You can't use 13.12?

like i said its @Dean's Tech Corner🌙 who is having the issues

02:40

i dont have a working driver either but thats cause my gpu is from 2016

if anything i'm waiting till the exkernel becomes much more advanced in terms of actual hardware support (which will be long from now)

the only other GPU i have is GT 1030 and that probably isnt vista compatible

it's based on pascal i recall?

yeah but came out in 2017

and that works like shit + it doesn't work

yeah

I feel it's within possibility for the pascal cards to work, though it will take alot for that to happen. (edited)

yeah maybe when the extended kernel gets better or someone mods the drivers fully

they DO work

02:42

it's just the gt 1030 that doesn't

Yeah i know they do work, but not at their best.

plus their performance are halved but they do work

now if we get to the point of RTX cards working yes

02:43

vista aero raytracing when?

WinDVD

now if we get to the point of RTX cards working yes

That won't probably happen.

i mean if extended kernel gets a ton of new functions

02:44

maybe someday

For what it's worth RTX is a bitch anyway

02:44

Pascal is nice though

I meant the true raytracing cards, not the 20x0 series. (edited)

waiting until we get radium support

02:44

so we can actually see suffering

Vruh 2

waiting until we get radium support

GTX 2050TI LEAK REAL??????

Well, the 3050ti is.

gtx 1150Ti maybe?

imagine radeon drivers on windows vista @docR

02:45

i wonder how absurdly unstable it would be

WinDVD

gtx 1150Ti maybe?

In another universe, yes.

Honestly I'd take Radium before RTX lol

Vruh 2

i wonder how absurdly unstable it would be

i mean vista can run up to 15.6

docR

Honestly I'd take Radium before RTX lol

Not really, no.

which my card is totally out of scope for

my card needs 16.6.2 but id say 16.7 to get rid of the issue where it draws more power from the PCIE slot than the specification normally allows lmao

The only cards that actually began to be competitive are the 5 thousand series and above.

my card's oldest is 20.8.3

jeez what card

rx5500xt

02:47

released in 2019

oh

as i said

02:47

totally out of scope

R.I.P

02:47

Maybe one day

not to mention i actually have a vista laptop right behind me but whatever

very far away

WinDVD

very far away

too far

not enough people appreciate vista :(

02:48

without vista we wouldnt have 7

Unfortunately it takes someone to like it as a whole.

we would probably have vista driver support up to 2017 if the software vendors didnt group the EOL of XP and Vista together

You can say so but it looks like it's an easy to dodge, and no mistake by the vendors. Just microsoft being incompetent.

An RX 590 on 19.12 or 20.9.1 wouldn't be too bad

02:52

It wouldn't be my first choice though

docR

An RX 590 on 19.12 or 20.9.1 wouldn't be too bad

Yes but a rx 5700 xt on that would be a must.

iirc the 590 wasnt too popular (edited)

Maxwell / Pascal / Kepler / Radium / Hell / blue hell / Alberta Canada / RTX

Yes, it's not as popular as the 400 series.

Those were alright, depending on oem

02:54

XFX tanked in quality

02:55

MSI is said to be decent for those

Yes, their 8 gb model seems to be working fine so far.

i still use my good ol XFX RX480 blower

02:55

it gets hot cause it never wants to kick up the fan

02:55

but eh

I tinkered with my friend's using 19.12 on 7. I wouldn't have even guessed it to be Radium

02:56

So respect

It's alright, it's not AMD at it's best but it's not bad for a budget card.

They're the only Radium cards I trust rn though

Other than the rx 5700 xt of course, that thing is worth it.

02:57

Well other than some models with thermal issues but it's an exception for AMD because they aren't as big. (edited)

I've heard XT cards have been having issues?

02:57

Is that always the case?

Yes, alot of thermial issues.

Uhh.. Pass lol

Wait no/

02:57

Not a lot my bad, i do know someone who have a working one. (edited)

welcome to modern GPU town

And it kicks ass.

Fair

where all the new gpu's get hot and draw a metric tonne of power!

02:58

although you cant beat fermi on that one

02:58

lol

WinDVD

where all the new gpu's get hot and draw a metric tonne of power!

The race to 8k Fortite at 240 hz is on!

well

WinDVD

where all the new gpu's get hot and draw a metric tonne of power!

It's not the 6000 series at least, but to be fair, the card is a beast and entirely makes up for it.

i should go to bed

It's sad that AMD had to leave the budget market for it though.

true\

MassClaw

It's sad that AMD had to leave the budget market for it though.

They need an RX 400/500 successor

03:00

They may lead with CPUs (for now), but true GPU boasting will always lean in Nvidia's favor. Even if only slightly

Yeah; but actually, they might have the lead on the mid to high range of cards as well. (edited)

They did something right with rx 400/500 if they can subtly draw me away from Nvidia lol

03:02

But... Still comes at a price

03:02

Can't even use 8.0, while I'm pretty sure even Turing works there

03:03

Then again, better non Windows support (edited)

03:03

GPUs are losses stacked against gains lol (edited)

Yes, and don't forget that a company really can't rule out on both lands simultaneously. (edited)

Well Nvidia kinda arbitrarily screws up alternative OSes because they refuse to allow for open drivers. AMD is just... AMD lol

03:05

AyyMd

03:05

I mean, do you really blame them for that? i do think microsoft is playing an active role against this.

AMD is locked down on Windows, they're just more lax for alternatives that are much further away from competing with Windows's gaming marketplace

Does explain why AMD works best with linux much better than windows.

They let Apple make their own drivers

Not really, AMD had their success shine even in the VR market, as those headsets can cost quite alot.

I mean the OS

Yes, but VR is only prevalent in windows so it's somewhat OS related as well.

Correct

I hear left and right when you are dropping the budget on an expensive VR gear is to bundle them with an AMD card. So they got their shit together as of late.

docR

They let Apple make their own drivers

But yes, apple does indeed have free will here but i do feel that is a special deal.

there's relatively optimized foss drivers for linux, that says plenty as well

04:07

thats why choosing between nv/amd is fucking tough

04:07

in an ideal world you'd have to have both

what sidebar

13:58

it looks normal to me

look on the left

13:58

part

13:59

oh nvm

13:59

fixed it

is this the correct computer icon for device manager?

14:17

I don't remember it looking like that

dunno

docR

Try a few different driver versions?

we got it to work but it's just the amd drivers that don't want to work

i dont use vista much until i can get a video driver

WinDVD

i dont use vista much until i can get a video driver

I still use it

its unusable for me cause i dont have any 3d at all and video is choppy

WinDVD

its unusable for me cause i dont have any 3d at all and video is choppy

oh you don't even have 3D

nope i dont have an iGPU

14:40

only my RX 480

WinDVD

nope i dont have an iGPU

I've never seen this

15:31

it just appeared today

i seen that on 8.0 and vista (edited)

15:39

probably never on 7 and 10

15:39

same as 8.1

I'm stuck without my laptop until my dock gets here =/

16:25

Charging port be fucked

docR

I'm stuck without my laptop until my dock gets here =/

Yeah

what happened

16:25

to the port

It was always a little loose. I think it's just seated all the way or something

:(((((((

It's a cheap replacement, it's just not an easy laptop to open up

oh

My brother replaced my screen for me and... Ouch

docR

My brother replaced my screen for me and... Ouch

did he break the circet or something

The dock will bypass by that port altogether though

16:27

No

16:27

It was just extremely messy

ohh

It's the small-ish form factor ig

16:28

It's a Latitude e7250

docR

It's a Latitude e7250

I have a latitude e6540

16:28

max spec

16:28

and the cable

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

I have a latitude e6540

You're automatically Freedom's friend

is jank

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HOW???

16:29

you can?

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Yes

I'm new to Vista

Freedom calm, or you're going to be watching anime with R3n

ok fixed it

Ladies like calm, freedom

16:30

Ladies no like freedom bullying young new Vista users

i cooked my clevine installation by patching the new files in.. fuck me

16:31

most of the programs don't want to open

16:31

i'm surprised it's working in this state even

I miss my Latitude

16:33

Imagine buying a brand new charger only for the port itself to death itself

wait can't you open your laptop only where the motherboard is?

ImSwordQueen

i'm surprised it's working in this state even

I'm going to try 6801's

(i mean my hp g62 had his keyboard glued in so i bent it)

I can get to the RAM, hard drive, and battery fairly easily. Getting to the CPU will require unscrewing 1,000 screws and praying open the palm rest with an old credit card

16:35

So yeah I can't imagine replacing that port would be fun

oh it's the same as my hp g62

It's bullshit

16:36

Yeah

yep

16:36

mine has the cool thing which is the glued keyboard

16:36

and under the glued keyboard has other screws

Keyboard isn't glued

so you have to break a key to remove it

But it's a 15 minute procedure in and of itself regardless

that's not bad

It isn't all that bad, just tedious

i mean opening mine took 30 minutes

16:37

putting it back was 10 minutes

Putting it back on was the easier part

16:37

My bro did it for me

this laptop is serving me well even with the abuse it put with

16:40

need to get 8gb and a ssd on it to max it out

dean youre better off using lightshot or something instead of that snipping tool

im the bully of the server

oh are ya? (edited)

I can still charge the thing, it's just gotten worse and I don't trust it. So I shall wait for that dock to get here. My little sister is getting one too tit her e7240, since she uses at her desk with a monitor and peripherals

16:40

The dock is for the best anyway

16:41

yep

16:41

lightshot is better

16:41

even if their imagine link sharing isn't the best..

just save the image and upload

16:42

thats easier and works better imo

yeah i do that

16:42

i'm not bothered to use their service

ImSwordQueen

need to get 8gb and a ssd on it to max it out

I have a 250 GB mSATA drive in it, a 1 TB external drive. I use shared folders from my desktop with 6 TB to make up for the storage constraint. Had 8 GB for 2 years, upgraded to 16. i7 5600u, IPS gorilla glass screen. Originally had a tn screen that gave Mr headaches

that's nice

16:46

cooked os..

Nice theme

lodocus

dean youre better off using lightshot or something instead of that snipping tool

im the bully of the server

oh are ya? (edited)

ok

Lightshot is great

17:09

You can map it to the print key

docR

Lightshot is great

wait would an old version of SharreX work?

Press print, and the screenshot selection comes up

because I use ShareX on windows 10

You can copy images directly to the clipboard

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

because I use ShareX on windows 10

Don't

docR

Don't

why not

This is part of Windows 10 withdrawal

docR

This is part of Windows 10 withdrawal

?

Use a program that's both leaner and natively supports your OS . erm I think still

docR

Use a program that's both leaner and natively supports your OS . erm I think still

ok

There's no paid prompts either

docR

There's no paid prompts either

sharex does not have that

17:12

I will just use lightshot ig

Copy the shortcut to your startup folder in start menu

17:16

Then I just set it to open on print key and hide the tray icon

Lightshot is the best one I know

sharex is legit good tho

it is

wait

18:48

aren't these windows XP icons?

18:48

18:48

found in Vista btw

Yes

19:48

There's a 3rd party fix that changes all those hidden XP resources to Vista ones, but it breaks extended kernel

19:48

It's called Vize

19:48

There was an Xpize too

docR

There's a 3rd party fix that changes all those hidden XP resources to Vista ones, but it breaks extended kernel

oh

@docR you can bring them to the extended kernel via resource hacker if you want to

I figured

20:44

I brought the regedit resources to 7

docR

There's a 3rd party fix that changes all those hidden XP resources to Vista ones, but it breaks extended kernel

can you do that without

22:09

breaking exkernel

22:09

@WinDVD is there any microphone drivers

22:09

for my laptop

22:10

ok

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

@WinDVD is there any microphone drivers

bro i dont know your laptop

ok

your best bet is the manufacturers website

22:11

i dont mind tbh

22:11

or more like i just feel like doing it idk

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

ok

btw if you need drivers just copy the hardware ID of the device and google it with vista

22:12

you can find drivers most of the time

WinDVD

btw if you need drivers just copy the hardware ID of the device and google it with vista

ok

22:14

all of them are OEM sooooo

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I have the entire server on mute, so

22:45

the red indicator is enough

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whatever you wanna call it. call it monster truck hot wheels (edited)

22:47

Vista8.0/8.1. Vista6.3

22:47

none of its real XD

22:48

I just call this Vista7, or Vista6.1 because its already a close sibling to Vista. Modded and even I have trouble differentiating them

22:49

but really choose your pings more wisely, otherwise you'll probably go unanswered when there's just too many pings to read

kimda want to install server 08 and do the workstation transformation thing

01:02

is there that glowing orb in startup in server 08? (edited)

01:02

that came to my mind

Shit

02:00

Idk, ironically I'm windows command prompt

02:00

But ok-ish in bash/linux lol

I'm not sure why you are tryi- wait.

02:01

Oh so the bat didn't work for you? or cmd rather. (edited)

02:02

Ah, yeah you have to own the files before doing those.

02:02

Or wait, you are just copying at the moment.. but i do believe you need ownership for that also.

You're going through some serious lengths to bake a Vista install lol

02:08

Perhaps

02:09

At the least you may learn something valuable for Win32

02:09

Or he's just pretending to be offline while he watches you break an atom in half

02:10

Let's hope

02:11

Who can make 3d Space Cadet Pinball work in Windows 10?- Why we at AskVG, that's who silly!

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He's just a contact on Discord, I have no other means to communicate. Flattered you think I'm that high up in the Vista world though

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Ofuck

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how do you do that?

Don't worry it's another term for resource hacker.

MassClaw

Don't worry it's another term for resource hacker.

ohhh

And google is shit, don't use it. In fact just forget about it pumping anyhing of use.

thats what he ment

For some purposes yes.

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sometimes it won't work tho

But once you leave out of that bubble you will get fucked.

MassClaw

But once you leave out of that bubble you will get fucked.

?

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ok

Pirating sites and sites deemed to have copyrighted content get struck down quite often.

02:37

So that's one example, the other one is results that google choose to sandbag deep down.

02:37

Just because of a "potential harm" or any of that bullshit they use to spray over everything they don't like.

02:38

Yes, but there's a better way to harvest both google's results and many other search engines at the same time, a meta search engine. (edited)

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ik how to do that

Yes, but not entirely. And regions do differ in results.

I just did not know

02:40

what you mean't when you shorten'ed it

Unfortunately, i do feel the american google is the matured one, as in i don't see results other users from that country are seeing.

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ok

In any case, yes i've seen that result too so it's probably one of the exceptions.

02:43

Amazing.

02:44

um

02:44

ok

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Yeah installers are majorily a no go for vista, try portables.

02:45

Portables are better anyways.

02:45

There's like a fuck ton of others that don't work too so honestly it's just better going 'installer'-less for the whole thing.

MassClaw

There's like a fuck ton of others that don't work too so honestly it's just better going 'installer'-less for the whole thing.

ok

most installers work when paired up with the application verifier

Oh you mean by their merit alone, yeah but it wastes time when the application itself doesn't work afterwards.

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Without taking a swing at the proud mongol folk, Dean

03:10

Google

03:10

Google is your friend

you use google on firefox?

03:22

lodocus

you use google on firefox?

Pardon me, DuckDuckGo

04:06

It's an expression

04:06

smhhh next people be telling me i'll be sent to the brig for saying emoiji instead of emoticon

ive addressed that to freedom

04:07

bing it on

you can say browse it

browsing eh?

04:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7kklmGWLDk

Movieclips

Easy Money (1983) - Just Browsing Scene (11/12) | Movieclips

04:17

there's a 2d version of the vista logo and it looks OK taken from logopedia btw

is there any portable version of malwarebytes for exkernel windows vista looked it up on google and could not find anything (edited)

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it doesn't get definition updates

the wording on the website isn’t clear. one page says this, which is for version 3.5.1

17:22

another page has this, which specifies v3.8.3 and doesn’t mention xp or vista at all.

Ximonite

the wording on the website isn’t clear. one page says this, which is for version 3.5.1

would that version of malwarebytes work better

17:31

or panda dome

17:32

because panda

17:32

supports vista

I would recommend malwarebytes if you have premium

Ximonite

I would recommend malwarebytes if you have premium

I don't

if you’re on vista, then panda

Ximonite

if you’re on vista, then panda

ok

Ximonite

if you’re on vista, then panda

oh no

17:35

I took a screenshot

17:35

wait

17:35

in my experience, the panda installer always tells me to download .net 4 even if it’s installed properly.

17:36

but it never does it on vista

Ximonite

in my experience, the panda installer always tells me to download .net 4 even if it’s installed properly.

should I download it even that it's on DOWNLOAD.COM

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

it redirects back to panda’s website

oh it does

yea

It did not

did it download tho

yes

17:37

oh it's fine

what’s the url you see in the downloads page?

https://download.cnet.com/Panda-Free-Antivirus/3001-2239_4-10914099.html

Panda Free Antivirus

CNET Download provides free downloads for Windows, Mac, iOS and Android devices across all categories of software and apps, including security, utilities, games, video and browsers

17:38

it seems to be fine

I mean download page that’s part of the browser

?

17:39

what do you mean

with every file you downloaded on that browser

I'm fine it's the original installer

17:40

I just wanna know if it still redirects back to panda’s site

no

17:41

it does not

17:42

@Ximonite

17:42

it crashed

17:42

yay

damn

17:45

requiring windows 7 functions because one was there

Ximonite

requiring windows 7 functions because one was there

does the error have to do with exkernel being installed on Vista?

yea. it sees one windows 7 function and decides to require more

Ximonite

yea. it sees one windows 7 function and decides to require more

oh

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Quite many programs wanted this one

Ximonite

yea. it sees one windows 7 function and decides to require more

it's thinking it's 7 due to the exkernel dll's from 7 and it looks for 7 dll's and fails (edited)

kinda

17:49

it looks for stuff that would normally be in 7 dlls and not vista dlls

Ximonite

it looks for stuff that would normally be in 7 dlls and not vista dlls

oh

17:50

ima try installing normal vista

kaspersky and avg support vista

really

17:54

?

yea

I did not know that

17:54

I will use

17:54

kaspersky

17:54

thats what I use on 10

cool

and I will use normal Vista

17:56

due to exkernel having some issues (and they are not Haswell issues)

Can the ntdll from the new exkernel work on the older exkernel?

18:00

Also new kernel32.dll

18:00

And not all the files

kaspersky for vista seems kinda hard to find but that could be cause i’m not going to the website on a vista machine (edited)

18:03

i hate exkernel's setup

you just run install.bat as admin though

May 9th 2014 this screenshot is from lol

20:10

cursed ass fucking facebook minimized there. this was before discord lol

20:10

That HD 6670 that tormented me

20:10

based os tho

hmm\

20:11

that old chrome icon tho

Well yeah, it was 2014

20:13

not last summer

Good system for vista IMO

lodocus

you just run install.bat as admin though

i do that

20:17

and it fails

20:17

it copies them

20:17

or i think it does that

i mean it always has corrupted my install when i did it on a vista install

20:18

the only time the bat has worked for me is when i updated the exkernel install i got from the ISO to a later version

what are the important files to copy to upgrade the already existent exkernel vista?

All

really all

ok ntoskrnl isn't needed

20:55

oh already patched. nice

20:56

ok patched successfully and everything works

use malwarebytes 3

It's pointless at that point, might as well just go without an antivirus.

Works but viruses live only so long before they evolve you know.

23:21

So it's literally pointless to use one and will only be just a novelty at most.

23:22

Wait so it still receives those?* would be fine even if it's kind of unofficial. (edited)

MassClaw

use malwarebytes 3

It's pointless at that point, might as well just go without an antivirus.

now lets not go there

02:08

use comodo cleaning essentials as a portable scanner, one

02:08

for mbam, buy a key for 1.75 or 1.65

02:08

those absolutely do get definitions updates

02:08

source: i use it

02:09

now lets not go there

I'd consider having an AV a waste wholeheartedly really.

A real time one, yes

02:27

a scanner for occasions, no

02:27

mbam i run real time tho, its non intrusive

I would vouch that a scanner is useless too if you know how to examine a file.

It basically is, but a fallback is always nice

True though, i do feel that some of the AVs like to spew out some viruses on their own to encourage you to buy a subscription.

wait whats the cmd command to fix the "windows requires a digitally signed driver" (edited)

04:44

could not find a fix

04:45

all of them was for 10

You mean "bcdedit /set testsigning on"?

I think

05:04

I mean the

05:04

thing where windows

05:05

will not allow you to install drivers due to it not being signed

Yeah but i responded with the command, is this it? because it's the only result i've seen.

05:07

Or wait.

05:08

You want to disable signature checking? it's "bcdedit /set nointegritychecks off" for this i b- wait that's for 10, well it's worth a try. (edited)

i believe its -set on older versions of windows instead of /set i could be wrong tho

MassClaw

You want to disable signature checking? it's "bcdedit /set nointegritychecks off" for this i b- wait that's for 10, well it's worth a try. (edited)

that worked

14:48

ummmmmm

14:48

"Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39) Click 'Check for solutions' to send data about this device to Microsoft and to see if there is a solution available". (edited)

14:49

I've been trying to fix this for a while now

14:49

this is for the 3D graphics driver intel HD 4600 (edited)

automatic updating windows vista in 2021

16:07

it got to 100% and then ALL of them failed

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

reinstall them

WinDVD

reinstall them

I already did that

like fully delete and reinstall?

and it did not do anytthing

16:25

yes

then i have no clue

16:25

try to get radeon drivers working again maybe

WinDVD

try to get radeon drivers working again maybe

hmmmmm

WinDVD

try to get radeon drivers working again maybe

wait but don't you need to install

16:26

intel drivers before

16:26

amd

no

16:26

you can install radeon drivers first

WinDVD

no

thats what it told me on 7

heck you dont even need to install the intel drivers if you dont want to technically

WinDVD

heck you dont even need to install the intel drivers if you dont want to technically

ok

16:27

just idk why it does not want to work

i can send you the 13.12 drivers that 100% are for vista if you want

16:31

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-r9-series/amd-radeon-r9-200-series/amd-radeon-r9-290

16:31

i know it says R9 200

16:31

but it still should have the drivers for your GPU in it

ok

16:33

so install the one that says R9 200

Yeah the one that says vista 64 bit

16:33

if this doesnt work then you really do need to install the modded windows 7 drivers

WinDVD

if this doesnt work then you really do need to install the modded windows 7 drivers

16:42

it did not install tho

hmm

This device cannot start. (Code 10) Click 'Check for solutions' to send data about this device to Microsoft and to see if there is a solution available. (edited)

a simple mod of the INF would probably fix it as this driver came out after your GPU

WinDVD

a simple mod of the INF would probably fix it as this driver came out after your GPU

oh

16:42

it came after

i'm not good at it though

16:43

you would need to add your HWID to the inf file

16:43

and hope it works pretty much

WinDVD

you would need to add your HWID to the inf file

ok

WinDVD

you would need to add your HWID to the inf file

where

16:45

again i don't really know what i would be doing in an inf file for vista

16:46

send me the HWID of your AMD gpu

16:46

and i can try

16:46

actually try to install it via device manager first btw

ok

WinDVD

send me the HWID of your AMD gpu

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&CC_0300

16:47

ok

thanks

WinDVD

again i don't really know what i would be doing in an inf file for vista

I think I found it

lemme try to mod iy

ok

16:48

thanks

CH165822.inf

175.07 KB

16:55

This took a bit of effort

16:55

turns out it takes a bit more than just slapping in the ID

16:55

but now it should hopefully work @Dean's Tech Corner🌙

ok

WinDVD

but now it should hopefully work @Dean's Tech Corner🌙

and install it using dev man right?

yeah

o

16:56

k

hopefully it works

WinDVD

hopefully it works

we will see

16:58

let me reboot

fingers crossed lol

WinDVD

fingers crossed lol

still no aero

that usually doesnt come on by default

Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43) Click 'Check for solutions' to send data about this device to Microsoft and to see if there is a solution available.

check dev manager

17:00

FRICK

WinDVD

that usually doesnt come on by default

yeah it was not an option

17:01

and there is an error

17:01

the driver has crashed

hmmm

probably cause it isnt compatible

oh

its seems like your best bet is trying to get the 14.X drivers working

17:02

they are 100% compatible

WinDVD

they are 100% compatible

I've actually been trying to follow that guide about manual install

how did it go

and been having no luck

maybe try an older version

WinDVD

how did it go

and already bricked windows

17:03

ok

heard the 14.6 beta might be the last

17:03

to fully work

17:03

or maybe im confusing it with the 15.6 beta

WinDVD

or maybe im confusing it with the 15.6 beta

14.6 is the last

ill link you to the 14.6 beta then

ok

https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/games/PC/guru3d/amd/Kaveri-Mobile-AMD-Catalyst-14.6-Beta-V1.0-Windows-[Guru3D.com].zip

17:05

not sure if that will work but

downloaded

17:05

we will try

that fast??

17:05

dang

bruh

17:06

it went from 100% to 50

b r u h

ok its downloaded now

17:07

extracting

pogg

17:07

you should still need to do the guide on it

WinDVD

you should still need to do the guide on it

ok

17:07

I also need the link (again)

i dont have it

17:08

i mean it should be in the search function on discord

true

17:14

would this be the windows installer service not running? (it was) (edited)

17:15

see this is what I hate about errors they (most of the time) won't tell you why it crashed

17:22

hmm

17:36

i have no ideo lol

17:36

try deleteing the older broken driver

17:36

from device manager

WinDVD

try deleteing the older broken driver

ok

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this message is telling you to install a GPU driver

17:45

afk for a bit

WinDVD

this message is telling you to install a GPU driver

ok

back

WinDVD

back

I might just use aero basic

I just don't think it's possible i know it is but

18:34

I just have bad luck

18:37

@WinDVD

i assume it didnt go well

18:39

and manual inf install didnt work?

WinDVD

i assume it didnt go well

yeah

You guys still fuckin with this lol

yes sadly

I could not get it to install

what did it say when you tried in in device manager

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I always get this error

18:39

or just it refuses to install

are you trying to run the setup?

18:40

try doing the INF mod and installing via device manager

WinDVD

try doing the INF mod and installing via device manager

ok

WinDVD

try doing the INF mod and installing via device manager

hmmmmmmmmmmm

18:41

6A should be the right one

ok

18:44

should I reboot?

18:44

it says it installed

18:44

ima reboot

good idea lol

WinDVD

good idea lol

still have the error

18:48

yay

18:48

Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)

18:49

It might be a problem related to your exact GPU

18:52

i have no idea

WinDVD

It might be a problem related to your exact GPU

oh and I still can't even get intel to work

no idea man

18:59

your best bet would be to install it on more compatible hardware

What Radeon GPU is this again?

AMD Radeon HD 8790M

yeah what he said

FFS MY HDD JUST TURNED OFF AGAIN

19:17

welp RIP my os in 2.5 seconds

WinDVD

FFS MY HDD JUST TURNED OFF AGAIN

why did that happen?

no idea

19:17

its been happening

19:17

how is vista still running

WinDVD

how is vista still running

good

holy it recovered from a full HDD shutdown

19:17

poggers

WinDVD

holy it recovered from a full HDD shutdown

wow

WinDVD

how is vista still running

it's been good but

19:18

if I reboot I need to

19:19

like reboot 7 times (no joke) it usually just gets stuck on a black screen after a reboot

bruh

WinDVD

bruh

what

idek

19:21

the hell is NT 6.1.1

19:22

why did they add a .1

I guess it indicates a service pack

yeah but all of them have it

19:22

8.1 and Vista do too

WinDVD

8.1 and Vista do too

hmmm

Wait I thought those were commas

nah

WinDVD

why did they add a .1

maybe it's for idk

?

WinDVD

?

maybe for compatibilty?

19:26

maybe something

19:26

for the app to run

but there is no OS with 6.1.1 or 6.0.1

19:26

i have no idea

19:27

its looking like getting RX 480 on vista is still impossible i have tried many versions.

19:27

very sad :(

WinDVD

its looking like getting RX 480 on vista is still impossible i have tried many versions.

so close

i always get Code 31 or Code 39

19:57

it probably wont work ever and if ex kernel gets updated ever to add the missing functions ill have a new pc by then lmao

oh wow. i forgot how windows basic looked on vista

20:09

it's ugly

ImSwordQueen

oh wow. i forgot how windows basic looked on vista

it is but I'm using basic

20:10

hmmm. crispy image (edited)

20:10

that orb haunts me

8790m? That should support Vista, bad drivers aside

20:28

Did you try 13.12?

20:29

Mobile GPUs are/were weird though. Maybe it lists Vista out of negligence, but only supports 7

20:29

Same company that softlocked out 14.x drivers for Vista, but supported x86 XP mind you

^ bad company

If neither 13.12 or modded 14.x work. Well... Not sure what to tell you

ImSwordQueen

^ bad company

Modern Nvidia isn't much better, but yeah

sadly we only have amd and nvidia making gpus

I argue AMD's slightly better now, if for some reason you can only buy RTX

20:33

The opposite is true though, so we're good lol

did someone ever got RTX cards to run on vista?

docR

8790m? That should support Vista, bad drivers aside

it might

20:52

but the drivers go brrr

docR

Did you try 13.12?

we did

21:06

it did not work

i checked the site, despite the Gpu being made in April 2013 they dont have a vista driver tab in the download section for that specific GPU.

Wait, 6.0.1, 6001 6.1.1, 7601

hmm

21:26

we will never know why amd did that on that random driver

But I don't get how Server 2008 R2 SP1 doesn't accept 6.1.1

no idea

WinDVD

i checked the site, despite the Gpu being made in April 2013 they dont have a vista driver tab in the download section for that specific GPU.

Going to try modding a driver for you

i mean hey its not for me its for @Dean's Tech Corner🌙

21:28

they tried modding 14.6 14.8 and 14.9

21:28

none worked

21:28

and 13.12 didnt even contain the HWID for that GPU on vista

21:28

tried adding it in still didnt work

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 Give me the HWID of your 8790m

wr3n

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 Give me the HWID of your 8790m

ok

wr3n

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 Give me the HWID of your 8790m

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&SUBSYS_05BE1028 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&CC_030000 PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6606&CC_0300

I get the impression you didn't mod that driver properly

21:52

for what its worth its tricky. it took me several attempts back in the day

docR

I get the impression you didn't mod that driver properly

the 14.x driver or the 13.12 driver

13.12 natively supports vista

not their GPU though (which is still strange)

unless the gpu itself doesn't, in which case adding the hwid might be necessary... assuming that would work

i tried it and it didnt work

WinDVD

not their GPU though (which is still strange)

really? from 2013?

yeah

21:57

April 2013

amd annoys me too much

21:57

well their old shit anyway

no clue

21:58

they dont have a vista download on the site

21:58

for that specific gpu anyway

what is the minimum driver they require?

22:00

is it a 14.x driver?

22:00

i think modded drivers on vista work up til like 15 beta or some shit

22:04

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22:04

Lol

Do you know what the "m" means?

Maria?

mobile

take an axe out and say it was an accident

Now unless you do a me, buy a laptop specifically upgradeable, and upgrade it, you're kinda fucked

I don't buy laptops with dGPUs at all, actually

22:11

I just use Intel HD on those

I used intel HD 2000 for so long

22:11

until 2018

22:11

it was painful for gaming but it worked

I don't like to game on a laptop

22:14

it isn't ergonomic to do

i dont know why but i prefer my laptop keyboard over my mechanical desktop keyboard

I prefer my... looks over shoulder

02:04

PS3 controller

docR

PS3 controller

that made me think about my original dualshock 2

02:49

now they're impossible to find here

02:49

mine had the analogs go fucking crazy

02:49

i was stashing the whole shell in case i got another controller

02:50

parents threw away the box the parts were in

mine had the analogs go fucking crazy

At least not the main PS2 model, that thing is behind the NES for being the most unstable in the lineup. (edited)

WinDVD

i dont know why but i prefer my laptop keyboard over my mechanical desktop keyboard

really?

Could be the fact that he was raised with these keyboards.

MassClaw

mine had the analogs go fucking crazy

At least not the main PS2 model, that thing is behind the NES for being the most unstable in the lineup. (edited)

uh

08:59

that's just the controller

09:00

the console works fine

09:00

my controller had one of the analog sticks go down permanently

Happens to some PS3 controllers too, the non dualshock model.

that's just the controller

Yeah, i said it was a relief that the controller died instead of the console. (edited)

also aren't you confusing the ps3 with being unreliable

09:33

the launch models were... questionable

09:34

ps2 was fine afaik

Nope, i'm pretty sure the fat one did have some models that were unstable.

09:36

The first PS3 model is well known for that too so. (edited)

The first fat models at launch were death bombs

ImSwordQueen

that orb haunts me

hmmmmm BUT WHAT IS THE REFLECTION IN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ORB HMMMMMMMMMM

yo what the heck (edited)

18:07

18:08

start menu

Where was that from?

From the windows vista video, the context gives it away.

Hm?

bruh literally search linus vista on youtube

ok

I kinda like Vista.

21:06

Newer would use it as daily though.

I still need to wait a bit for the ExKernel to modernize Vista a bit more, also 7 drivers for Vista would be nice since I would have literally no gpu drivers once I finish installing it. (edited)

same here

It's just in an awkward spot for most of the population.

yeah

Success

10:30

Anyone willing to test my vmware 11 for vista package on a real Vista PC

Now I wonder how does one uninstall all this mess (edited)

Unfortunately don't have any room for- wait what?

What is it

What do you mean by a mess?

The hackjobs that VMware 11 and 12 on Vista are

Ah.

You go around swapping files of an existing installation..and that makes uninstalling it a less possible task

15:19

I know I can just wipe the VM and reinstall..but in a scenario where I use Vista on real hardware, that's a tad bit more time-consuming (edited)

Not good, definitely not for everyone*. (edited)

Yes exactly

15:19

I need to know if it's possible before going for the hassle of messing around (edited)

15:20

@ApertureSketch Is it possible to uninstall vmware 11/12 off vista? (edited)

Betajyst4094

I need to know if it's possible before going for the hassle of messing around (edited)

Ok then.

Betajyst4094

@ApertureSketch Is it possible to uninstall vmware 11/12 off vista? (edited)

Yeah, you could use IObit Uninstaller if you wanna get it out. Not that it is required, just what I use.

Hmm

15:42

It's just that when I swap the 12 files with ones from 11, the workstation server service fails to start

15:43

I wonder what causes it..I hope not something registry related

15:43

Are there logs it leaves

15:49

Apparently its vmx86 with a different version (edited)

15:50

304 expected 308 actual

You mean the VMware Authorization Service?

The VMware Workstation Server service

17:11

In order for the Auth service to start, the aforementioned one must be functioning (edited)

Hmm.. that's interesting, well as for me I just switched files to VMware 12 once 10 was installed and it seemed to be working so I couldn't really help you out.

It does work that way

17:29

I wanted to see if I could downgrade from 12

There's more

19:25

There are drivers in the system32 drivers folder you might have missed

Nope, for sure I didn't

19:28

The registry is most likely fully messed up

19:28

Trashed the VM

Idfk

19:50

Try the MSFN guide

hope this actually works

07:04

especially since it's the actual vista installer shoved into a 7 pe (edited)

but w h y

u s b 3

yup, a newer pe can install vista if vista setup is used

iirc theres already a modded vista PE with usb 3

:lewdmegumin: ~~Cries in no nitro~~

dont worry i gotuchu

15:35

when windows doesn't want to work so you sysprep it

18:51

sysprepping windows even before it goes into oobe

interesting

A wall of text can only be so appealing.

a sort of drm

19:07

fuck

19:07

basically

19:07

it doesn't detect the right hardware

19:07

so basically it doesn't let me go pass that

I don't think that's DRM but sure enough.

i mean it's something like that

19:42

more photos

19:45

this OEM release of vista is more interesting than most of OEM's discs i had

Can ya dump it for me

yeah sure

19:50

wait you mean the wim or the images? @Betajyst4094

The disc

it isn't really a disc

Ah

it's a hackjob

Then the wim I guess

i have to remake it

19:51

because the hackjob i did is a mess

19:52

and some bloatware i have is broken

Fine, take ya time bro

is it ok if i upload it to the web archive?

All ok

19:53

I use FDM for IA links (edited)

alr thx

19:55

now that i can recreate a working version of the wim (hopefully) i can release it without the weird mods i did to it

uploading @Betajyst4094

20:56

i couldn't get the working wim to generate so i'm using the semi-broken one

Ah it's good

https://archive.org/details/IT_VistaHomePremium_HPOEM_x86/

[Italian] Windows Vista Home Premium x86 HP OEM a6219.it : HP : Fre...

This is a recovery WIM of Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit for the HP Pavilion a6219.it in italian. This OEM WIM isn't installable via normal means. (it needs...

It is fine if it does not contain any bloatware.

it does

21:35

also as stated [This OEM WIM isn't installable via normal means.]

Stock Vista is only good.

21:37

Vista was suffering thanks to OEM's.

it's just for preservation sake

21:44

nobody and i mean nobody has a wim or even the computer in question

21:45

so for preservation sake i uploaded it

Alright.

And its RTM so it will have RTM shenanegans too

You can use RTM these days.

21:53

XP drivers would just suffer.

You can't

21:57

RTM is just bad

You are insulting Vista. (edited)

Thanks a lot man

Deleted User

You are insulting Vista. (edited)

Using RTM is really masochism

No. everyone knows that RTM is a buggy unstable and useless mess

21:59

SP1 is where vista is usable and actually stable

I would not prefer you insulting Vista.

22:07

You can get mutted on the extended kernel server like I did.

wat

Nothing for you.

22:10

I don't hate Vista RTM.

22:11

It was just companies not updatinr their drivers.

22:11

UAC is easily removable so that does not count.

no

22:20

rtm vista is actually buggy

Whatever.

22:21

Your opinion.

not an opinion

@ win32#7457

22:23

Not really want to ping him.

It's not as buggy as people make it out to be, it's rather stable.

i mean joel from vinesauce had solitare crash rtm lol

Insulting Vista RTM is ok

23:33

but only RTM.

what is a good area to find PC's that can run Vista?

Second hand markets

03:33

Marketplace, Craigslist, Ebay

ok

would this be slow to run on Vista or would it be ok to run on Vista? (edited)

04:39

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m86225673551/

Dell inspiron 530s Computer on Mercari

Very Gently used Dell 530 s Will come with power cord 4GB Ram 160 GB Windows Vista Will try to post more pictures

should be fine but why pay so much for that?

04:40

you could get an old HP C2D system for cheaper and its vista compatible

ok

04:41

I mean ALOT of them were $180

you just gotta look hard

04:42

i got an HP slim c2d pc for 20 bucks

04:42

online

I'm trying to find a Vista pc with these specs, 4GB ram dual core and at least a 100GB hard drive (SSD if possible)

ill look around but no guarantee ill find anything. You in US right?

yes

04:44

I am

ok

04:47

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m73219487690/?ref=search_results

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04:47

you can put vista on it

not bad

04:48

do you think 2GB ram is too little for Vista?

was just a quick search could probably find a better deal if you search more

04:48

also no vista should be OK with 2

04:48

it did come out in 06 afterall

ok

besides it has 4 gigs

true

04:51

https://www.ebay.com/itm/191677233132?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28 when did windows XP look so much like Vista?

Windows xp Dell Desktop computer Fast duo core 17" Monitor keyboard...

We have installed a new hard drive. We installed NEW windows xp pro, with Proper Keycode ( keycode sticker is still attached to top of unit ). We have thoroughly cleaned and tested this system. this is a great machine.

they do be installing updates tho

yep

i thought that updates were down on vista

there are workarounds

WinDVD

should be fine but why pay so much for that?

this is what I mean by A LOT of $$$$$$

04:56

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m33617494305/?ref=search_results

HP laptop on Mercari

Hp pavilion dv5.1132us Entertainment Notebook PC. Has Windows Vista Home Premium, 64-bit edition. HP Protectsmart Hard Drive, HP Mesh Drive Imprint Finish, with Lightscribe Direct Disc Labeling; has a duo color capability with right printer. It has a 4.0 GB capability. In excellent condition; smoke free home . black extetior/ grery interior.

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

this is what I mean by A LOT of $$$$$$

laptops are almost always expensive

yep

plus pc part shortage so they are more in demand

desktop

04:59

is better in price

most of the time yes

04:59

some cases you can get a laptop cheaper tho

some

WinDVD

most of the time yes

https://www.bonanza.com/listings/Dell-Optiplex-745-Model-DCCY-Desktop-Computer-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-Key/850206015?goog_pla=1

Dell Optiplex 745 Model: DCCY Desktop Computer Windows Vista Ultima...

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05:00

does it come with windows vista

05:00

or is it just the product key

05:01

hmmmm

either way you can just install it

true

also Bonanza isn't really the best place for buying tech items

yeah

05:04

eBay is also bad

05:05

there is a lot of scams

05:05

where they will just take your money and they don't give you anything

i havent gotten scammed once on ebay

05:05

ebay buyer protection is really good

05:05

well mostly good

05:05

but still

WinDVD

i havent gotten scammed once on ebay

one time my brother got a old xbox and the seller took our money

05:06

did not give us anything

did you contact ebay?

and seller did not respond to messages

WinDVD

did you contact ebay?

yes they refused to give us a refund

the seller or ebay

both

was it longer than 30 days and did the tracking say delivered when it wasnt?

WinDVD

was it longer than 30 days and did the tracking say delivered when it wasnt?

we never got a refund

well was it longer than 30 days

yes

theres the issue

WinDVD

theres the issue

well we contacted seller after a week

trust me scams on ebay arent very common as long as you buy from reputable sellers

ok

make sure to always check seller reviews

05:10

buyer reviews dont count cause they can just buy stuff and get reviews

cant those be faked tho

wdym

the reviews

yes but not hundreds of them

like the seller for the xbox had 4.4 stars

and they have to ship it to a real address

05:12

it could have been buyer reviews

05:12

also, it could have gotten lost in the mail/stolen from your porch or mailbox

maybe

WinDVD

also, it could have gotten lost in the mail/stolen from your porch or mailbox

no

WinDVD

also, it could have gotten lost in the mail/stolen from your porch or mailbox

maybe

tracking would tell you

WinDVD

tracking would tell you

we did not get a tracking email

05:13

like no joke nothing

it wont be in an email

05:13

it would be in purchase history

WinDVD

it wont be in an email

or anything

WinDVD

it would be in purchase history

nope not there

should still be there if the tracking isnt older than 6 months

well it is now

the xbox is there?

05:14

check tracking then maybe we can get to the bottom of this

no

05:15

like its been more than 6 months

oh

05:15

this got off topic

05:15

really fast lol

yeah

05:15

lol

05:21

really overpriced

05:21

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m60764508613/

Hp gaming laptop 15 inches obo. on Mercari

Up for sale hp gaming laptop 15 inches everything works. System: Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard Model: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC Rating: 5.0 Windows Experience Index Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz Memory (RAM): 6.00 GB System type: 64-bit Operating System Windows edition: Windows Vista Home Premium What comes with it...

WinDVD

also no vista should be OK with 2

I think different I think 2 GB ram would not like aero

bruh i ran aero on 1gb of ram

05:33

not the best but 2gb would have been perfectly useable

WinDVD

not the best but 2gb would have been perfectly useable

ok

WinDVD

not the best but 2gb would have been perfectly useable

https://www.ecrater.com/p/35721531/acer-aspire-5630-154-intel-core2-t5500?gps=1

Acer Aspire 5630 15.4" Intel Core(2) T5500 1.66GHz 120GB HDD 2GB RAM

Nice vintage laptop: this Acer notebook as shown is in good condition and fully functional! Only a few signs of wear, please see pictures. NOTES:

05:34

is this overpriced?

05:34

sorry for ping forgot to to turn off

i mean it looks nice

05:35

does it still hold a charge?

yes

05:35

it does

hmm

05:35

if you think its worth it go for it

05:35

i like it

05:36

but not sure i would spend too much for a machine specifically for vista

WinDVD

but not sure i would spend too much for a machine specifically for vista

I'm using the pc as a main tho

woah a MAIN

yeah

er, that hardware wont hold up to well doing modern tasks

05:37

idk

I will send you 3 in your dms tell me which one is best

well i mean it depends on personal preference

05:37

i cant really say what you will enjoy the most

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

https://www.ecrater.com/p/35721531/acer-aspire-5630-154-intel-core2-t5500?gps=1

dude

05:47

you can get an ivy bridge laptop

05:47

don't just go "windows vista laptop" on ebay (edited)

ok

anything core 2 duo or quad up to core i ivy bridge should work fine with windows vista

05:48

so just look for that instead

i think you know what this pe actually is by the cursor

8?

no, im bad at riddles, so it's actually 7

06:36

but it's only the PE that's 7

06:37

what is installed from this is still Vista

Wait does 7 have the aero cursor in PE?

yes

Huh. I thought it didnt

i could remove it to make it even more of a perfect replica

06:37

even tho it will be obvious once a cmd is open

On 8 you could get basic so it was going to be obvious

seems to not be in a obvious location

06:43

06:44

ofc the pe can be newer, but the setup has to be vista's in order for vista to install properly

is there a way to integrate SP2 of vista on an iso without installing it?

dism++ i think

nope

18:26

error

apparently vista boots on my ryzen with debugging mode

Where can i find a clean vista rtm iso

Vruh 2

apparently vista boots on my ryzen with debugging mode

same here had to do the same thing

but then setup fails with bad pool header because of the usb drivers

i had to do this on many of my vista installs actually...

22:42

even my sandy bridge (second gen core i cpu) (edited)

Where can i find a clean vista rtm iso

Up- hm, you mean 1.0 vista?

yeah

i need a fully updated windows vista iso

22:42

@Mintel

i need a fully updated windows vista iso

One sec.

you're the one i know has one[

22:42

oh yeah that's not on mega

there should be one in pins

my quota has been blown off since like 2017

22:43

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

WindowsVistax64Uptodate.iso

log out

found it

i have dynamic ip so getting past quota is easy for me

Vruh 2

my quota has been blown off since like 2017

Just use another account.

22:43

Even if you redownload the mega app, it won't detect you as the same user for some reason. So it just.. renews the quota for you. (edited)

or use mega downloader. but i have had corrupted files come from it sometimes so not my first choice

Yeah just use another account with a burner email.

yep pretty much the most legit way you can do it

22:45

by legit i mean actually working lol

22:46

anyway if someone finds a vista RTM iso ping me

Here: https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%20Vista/en_windows_vista_x64_dvd_x12-40712.iso Hopefully it's this. (edited)

Sweet, thanks

is there root cert update for vista? or is it only for XP

vista can use the same root update as XP

Vruh 2

but then setup fails with bad pool header because of the usb drivers

doesn't install

01:39

got a totally vanilla iso and it still bsods with bad pool header

mine didnt do that

02:17

ryzen system with b450

02:18

try different bios version

WinDVD

try different bios version

again

02:38

no

02:38

i don't wanna risk just bricking my computer

then you cant run vista it seems

02:40

use vmware it doesnt suck too bad

WinDVD

use vmware it doesnt suck too bad

it really is pretty good

WinDVD

then you cant run vista it seems

honestly

04:17

i do have a vista laptop

04:17

so does it really matter

04:17

~~apart from it being slow as shit~~

Vruh 2

i don't wanna risk just bricking my computer

if you have a modern system like b450 it probably has a dual bios feature

05:44

which basically means it has two bios chips where u can switch if u get a bad flash

05:44

so u dont brick

A320 so no

05:45

probably not

Bruh even my X470 doesn't have that

i have flashed my bios probably way to many times lol

05:58

mostly downgrading to older versions tho

damn it

what does it say

can't load profile

06:06

so it loads a corrupted one

o o f

i messed up the install while trying to fix it

i think everyone here has done that at least once while troubleshooting

06:07

lol

done!

it's alive but it's not the same

thats a lot of tray icons

not enough

try n. 23912489

Time to debomb this beautiful piece o beta

Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSANWgrPYY

Paul Hoover

Windows Vista - Tablet & Laptop Features

:O

should I use Vista on haswell with NO 3D drivers

19:22

and/or aero drivers?

19:22

or just use vmware (edited)

Just use VMware

Deleted User

Just use VMware

ok

Deleted User

Just use VMware

or should I make windows 7 look like Vista

19:51

?

You can do that as well

Deleted User

You can do that as well

which one would you do?

20:45

or which one is the better option?

If you want the true experience, use a VM

20:46

if you want about the same look of Vista, go with the transformation

Deleted User

If you want the true experience, use a VM

ok vm then

thought putting the latest vista w/exkernel iso here would be nice for fast access. credits to mintel of course latest available in homepage:https://www.mediafire.com/file/rtrdll0pfjff1ko/Windows+Vista+with+Extended+Kernel+v5.5.iso/file v6 (ultimate only): https://www.mediafire.com/file/0d3d3w2z9t52ein/Windows+Vista+with+Extended+Kernel+v6+(Ultimate).iso/file source/homepage: https://forum.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=85 (edited)

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel v5.5

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel v6 (Ultimate)

lodocus pinned a message to this channel. 12/06/2021 09:35

well i did release v6, but uhh

oh? where?

#windows-vista

09:41

only ultimate tho

got it. thanks

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

should I use Vista on haswell with NO 3D drivers

One word: No

15:15

You shouldn't even with 3d drivers (edited)

15:15

Nonononononononono

15:15

I've done it

docR

One word: No

ok

docR

One word: No

I made windows 7 look like windows vista

yeah same what's so special with that

you didn't have to ping me twice

Vista, Minnesota

22:44

I love Vista!

22:45

:D

Scary

Ximonite

Vista, Minnesota

face reveal!??!?!

Ximonite

Vista, Minnesota

i'm moving there /s (edited)

yes, but I have revealed my face many times before

bruh

Ximonite

yes, but I have revealed my face many times before

you look like a chad

08:12

what the fuck

Looks like a tiktok e-boy to me more

Jaw isn't big enough

Betajyst4094

Looks like a tiktok e-boy to me more

You have a point, but he does have some sweet sunglasses though.

Vruh 2

you look like a chad

15:42

me irl

looks pretty good

Pretty nice, just trim the nails a bit.

ApertureSketch

Pretty nice, just trim the nails a bit.

i have a bad habit of picking at them lol

same

Vruh 2

you look like a chad

Churrrrad

16:50

Technically speaking

16:50

16:51

It aint a face reveal

16:51

You guys need some workout tfGlad

nou

Betajyst4094

You guys need some workout tfGlad

yes

And more time under the sun

Ximonite

yes

First time someone here agrees

Vitamin D pills exist for a reason lassy

U wanna live on pills?

It was a joke

16:53

I have thyroid though. I have to live on pills

16:53

Or I'll balloon up lol

I have ADHD so I gotta live on pills to pay attention to literally anything

Betajyst4094

You guys need some workout tfGlad

lifting powermac g5's on the daily

Ximonite

I have ADHD so I gotta live on pills to pay attention to literally anything

i feel you, im extremely mentally ill, i take 4 pills every night just to function

All kinds of diseases

docR

I have thyroid though. I have to live on pills

My mom's had the same thing lol

My situation must be a true rarity in the West these days: 0 pills for me. But my hand-eye coordination just isn't there.

Ximonite

I have ADHD so I gotta live on pills to pay attention to literally anything

I have that too, the inattentive form. I convinced myself I could defeat it by mentally disciplining myself... Hah. Haha. Hahaha. No

win32

My situation must be a true rarity in the West these days: 0 pills for me. But my hand-eye coordination just isn't there.

Only pills I take are from gastritis

Our brains produce too much dopamine. You'll have a thousand thoughts at once, but you struggle to hone in on one

17:03

It makes driving a truly unnerving experience

17:04

But my nervous excessiveness also led to the comprehensive Vista6.1 huehuehuehuehue

Betajyst4094

Only pills I take are from gastritis

Been eating all that shit from stores

17:04

Now evading it as much as possible

docR

It makes driving a truly unnerving experience

Same for me, and the coordination issues make it even worse. I was even advised to not wear boots when driving, which is impractical between November and March here.

Oh win32. need a quick tip. how do I bypass the win32 not valid app error on XP?

17:06

Not saying you're not valid

CFF Explorer to change the majorsubsystemversion to 5.

Thank you

It will be under "Nt Headers" and "Optional headers'

I was gonna make clever win32 joke but it actually sucks f

Didn't work

17:09

Whoah, stupid me

17:09

The app is app-arently 64 bit

win32

Same for me, and the coordination issues make it even worse. I was even advised to not wear boots when driving, which is impractical between November and March here.

I've gotten better with it. Now it's just mildly unnerving, rather than downright terrifying

That sucks man

It's fine

17:19

I do, of course wear glasses too

17:20

My gf surprisingly doesn't need glasses though. But like me, the ADHD and thyroid demons haven't shown mercy lol

17:24

This relates to Vista because uh, down with UWP, Aero

17:24

or somshit

17:27

Has anyone tested Project64 3 under Vista?

17:28

I had to revert to 2.30 because the default input is plugin was jacked up

17:28

I suppose I'll test it, Duckstation, and PCSX2 1.6

docR

I do, of course wear glasses too

i have glasses but i dont like to wear them that much cuz i dont like how i look with them

There are limitations since it's a vm though

i look completely different with glasses

17:29

like unrecognizable

You'll get over that complex

thats me with glasses

I like how I look with them

docR

You'll get over that complex

ive had glasses since i was 2 or 3 years old and still havent gotten over it

17:29

lol

I just hate cleaning them

mine also always end up super scratched somehow

17:30

im very gentle with them and everything but it always happens regardless

Scratch resistance lenses?

17:32

They'll all nick up a little, but unless you drop them directly on a scratchy surface it shouldn't be noticeable

Michael

Click to see attachment 🖼️

hot

wr3n

hot

oh god I messed up

not at all... oh wait he lives in your state

win32

not at all... oh wait he lives in your state

wait what?

17:46

i didnt know that

17:46

is that actually true?

he lives in the state of fried chicken

lol

I was going to make a joke, but Scarlight isn't here ;-;

Michael

oh god I messed up

Yes. Yes you did

17:49

Did I mess up?

not really, that's hot too

do it

If I do it

17:51

Fake Vista dies with me

oh, i thought you wanted to shoot me and kill real vista too

17:51

There

17:52

Which is fake is anyone's guess

you did it. fuck you and your xp ultimate edition

17:52

we're going back to kernelXE

Or fix the HAL and I'll date you

17:53

(in your dreams, that is)

meanwhile winclient puts up with an xp worshipper who refuses to use vista

HAL: Hell, Anguish, Lunacy

docR

Has anyone tested Project64 3 under Vista?

Yes 2.3 works properly

win32

meanwhile winclient puts up with an xp worshipper who refuses to use vista

He'll convert him eventually

Gonna try 3

Try glide64 too

It works

17:54

Perfectly

I use the older 2.x one because it has superior performance

17:54

Glide I mean

17:55

4 is more accurate with reflections, at a serious perf tariff

17:55

Like the TV screen in Mario Kart 64

17:56

That stuff tanks it

There was a setting to reduce lag iirc

17:57

What was it called

The hybrid mode?

18:04

Glide64 4.0 removed it

Nope

18:05

Fucking memory

I'll remember what it's called when I look again

18:05

I'll show you when I'm back at the computer

18:06

Bright side

18:06

Everything I throw at it works without individual game tweaking, even the infamous n64 port of re2

18:06

I got Ocarina of Time and Paper Mario looking bae with texture packs

Yeah PJ64 is excellent

18:07

Though the only N64 game I play is sm64 tfGlad

I play that pc recompile

18:08

It uses dx11

18:09

It's easy to build with dx11, it's mostly automated

The rom hacks to be exact

You just download a few tools and run them

18:09

With a very specific ROM

18:09

docR

With a very specific ROM

The US rom, easy to find

Also my usb n64 pad is surprisingly not trash

Should I buy a gamepad

18:10

Didnt hold one for like 15 years

Sure

Should I buy a gamepad

If you like it.

Works fine

18:11

With gliden64

These are just re-listed innext and retrolink pads, funny name aside https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07449HLKJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_i_VRZX8Y08S6TWY9MTAD4Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Amazon.com: Classic N64 Controller, SAFFUN N64 Wired USB PC Game pa...

Buy Classic N64 Controller, SAFFUN N64 Wired USB PC Game pad Joystick, N64 Bit USB Wired Game Stick Joy pad Controller for Windows PC MAC Linux Raspberry Pi 3 Sega Genesis Higan (Grey): Video Games - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

But would suggest you to get the actual controller if you after authenticity at this point.

Pay attention to the retrolink and retrobit controllers. That's essentially what this is. Don't pay attention to me in the comments https://youtu.be/nkf4oeTq7Dg

Morph- X

Nintendo 64 USB / Bluetooth Controller In-depth Review

MassClaw

But would suggest you to get the actual controller if you after authenticity at this point.

Yes. Do enjoy replacing the joystick too, and cleaning off the yellow stain

18:13

og gamecube is bae tho

The joycon on this controller is basic as hell, a duplicate of said controller with said joycon sounds like hell.

It's not hell

18:14

They improved it considerably

Oh?

It's still loose and sensitive, it just doesn't have a weird mechanical mechanism with tons of moving parts

18:14

It's really smooth

18:15

Without losing accuracy

18:15

I was shocked

18:15

Buttons are just louder, moulding is a bit cheaper

18:15

Skip to 22:27 in the video

Ouch, the buttons don't sound nice at all.

Yeah. That's the less than pretty side about it

18:17

Joystick is amazing though

18:17

This is my fav. What do you notice over an original gc controller?

More buttons in the centre?

Grip identical, buttons feel/sound identical. Plastic... Feels more like a Wii Classic controller. On the other hand, two bumpers, the center buttons. Joystick and c stick actually click. You can play modern games with this bitch

18:20

PowerA did good with this one

docR

Joystick is amazing though

Though, to be fair, never had a hand on the original 64 controller so can't talk to begin with.

This one I leave paired to Switch. The wireless ones have motion too

18:21

It's like a wavebird without the giant center piece

Not bad at least with this one you can tell it won't drift on it on a moment notice.

Some people experienced drift

18:28

I haven't

18:28

There's always a dud in every product

There's always a dud in every product

Wait you haven't? Not bad, so there's hope in just buying a new controller.

Yeah

18:54

Some are faulty, most aren't

18:55

These aren't joycons

18:55

Joycons are hopeless lol

Oh, thought you were talking about the default joycons with the console for a sec, though heard some people never get it, so was equally surprised, pretty sure it has something to do with dust.

All joycons eventually turn to ash

Still have heard people having theirs work to this day from the moment they bought them when it came out.

18:58

It's probably just extra sensitive to dust.

Perhaps

Still not good though, other handhelds had even better ~~joycons~~ my bad, thumbsticks* than it. (edited)

Heyo guys. Is it possible to make the tabs on the taskbar fade on hover in vista? (edited)

10:28

Like in this theme

windows_7_superbar_for_vista_by_alazifart_d1zy1m8.zip

1.71 MB

Does it give the functionality of the superbar, or is it just a chungus taskbar?

It's a theme. ofc the functionality's not present

10:59

I just wonder how the author achieved animated taskbar tab buttons?

@WinDVD i put my laptops hdd on my pc with vista and it just booted

13:54

no bsod

13:55

no debugging mode

13:55

it just booted

on your ryzen pc?

yes

13:58

i did switch mobo though

13:58

but the bios is even newer

hmm

would vista support usb 3.0 and nvme?

14:42

with the ext. kernel

14:42

im pretty sure xp doesnt

vista can support usb3 even without the ext. kernel (edited)

xp supports usb 3.0

Vruh 2

xp supports usb 3.0

huh?

i ran it on my ryzen and usb 3 worked fine

Vruh 2

i ran it on my ryzen and usb 3 worked fine

but did you get usb 3 speeds or usb 2 speeds?

you need some generic backported drivers

14:44

i cant recall

hmm

if usb 3 didnt work then usb wouldnt work at all

i might have to get a xp-compatible gpu once the market dies down so i can run xp on my ryzen

14:44

titan x maxwell maybe lol

GTX 980 ti would work too

14:45

equivalent to a 1070 i think

i have a 1070 rn, too bad it doesnt work in xp (edited)

980 ti is fully supported on xp and vista and i think you can get it to work on 2000

yeah for 980ti on win2k. 1070ti is apparently starting to work better with 372.70 .sys + 373.xx and 375.xx usermode files, but apparently still not optimal

23:01

on vista...

win32

yeah for 980ti on win2k. 1070ti is apparently starting to work better with 372.70 .sys + 373.xx and 375.xx usermode files, but apparently still not optimal

Source?

https://msfn.org/board/topic/177059-nvidia-pascal-graphics-card-issue/?do=findComment&comment=1200652

Nvidia Pascal Graphics Card Issue

Hmm

00:41

Get them newer drivers working

Get Pascal running full speed on Vista

04:01

Maxwell is fine, but supply isn't infinite

does anyone have vista's battery tray icons

19:45

or at least, does anyone know what file has them

Ah-

19:56

Nope sadly not.

i figured it out - batmeter.dll

I was about to say

19:57

I modded my dll to use the icon on 7

had to replace resources manually with reshack but why doesn't the 7 to vista transform pack include them

19:57

kinda more og

ok so apparently now vista works with no issues on my ryzen but 7 doesnt work at all

19:57

why the fuck

winclient and i were talking about updating his video with all the new resources

19:58

there will be a new guide soon-ish

ah, awesome

19:58

keep us posted

sure

19:58

i'm giving him all the resources, he'll organize it and do the guide

19:58

eventually

(never)

19:58

/s

banned

im banned (im not here)

how would one of these do in a vista system?

02:50

should be usable

02:56

but why that of all graphics cards?

Cheap AF lol

03:11

and probably wont be bottlenecked by my Pentium D

03:11

actually it probably will

03:12

oh well

03:13

oh yeah and lower power draw than say a GTX 200 series\ card

WinDVD

and probably wont be bottlenecked by my Pentium D

nah, when the 8000 series came out core 2's were brand new and very high end

03:50

it wasnt uncommon to have a pentium 4/pentium d paired with one of the less expensive cards like the 8600 gt

then its the perfect card lol

WinDVD

then its the perfect card lol

yeah sounds like it

03:56

and bottlenecks arent as severe as they sound

03:56

i had a 3.4ghz pentium d when i was a kid and pushed that thing to its limits gpu-wise

03:56

by the end there i had a radeon hd 5850, 8gb ram, 2tb hdd and windows 7 running on it

03:56

and played the latest games like gta 4 at the time (edited)

03:56

did just fine

its not the best Pentium D its the 820 model

WinDVD

its not the best Pentium D its the 820 model

i dont imagine the difference between a 2.8ghz and the 3.4ghz that i had is that much

03:57

considering how historically pointless intel's chase for clock speed was

i would overclock but the motherboard is OEM dell

mine back then was a dell precision 380

03:58

an old high end workstation that i got off a family member when they upgraded

03:58

pimped that thing out and it did good for a long time

also the chipset of mine caps at 4gb ram

03:58

and 1 slot doesnt work

that was my main machine when i was first learning video editing/vfx in vegas pro and after effects

03:58

rip

1 slot just gives me a ram error when ram is in the slot

eyyo i got the slot working now its got 4gb of ram lets gooo

08:30

I have a Pentium 4 531 HT as a daily driver

08:31

and 1gb ram

hmm

buying a new pc soon

why not add ram atleast?

08:31

should be very cheap if its ddr2

it's not worth it

WinDVD

should be very cheap if its ddr2

it's ddr

even cheaper

it would be slow speed tho

08:32

it's not worth it for a daily driver

i had a pentium 4 dell but the comically bad caps finally died

I will maybe buy optiplex 3020 with a haswell and 8gb ram

pretty decent

it may run xp

i3, i5 or i7?

i3 4150 i belive

Deleted User

it may run xp

because it's haswell

08:33

8.1 as daily for some time

08:34

I kinda like that OS

08:34

kinda tired of 7

08:34

I will go back to 7 once I get sick of 8.1 tho

hmm

08:49

old I3's arent great but far better than pentium 4 lol

WinDVD

old I3's arent great but far better than pentium 4 lol

even haswell?

08:55

if it can run beamng drive I won't complain

beamng on a haswell dual core will be..

08:56

not great (edited)

08:56

especially without dedicated gpu but i assume it will have one

no it won't

then 5 fps for you lol

08:58

that was an exageration btw, if you crank settings to low and resolution low then you can probably get 30fps

08:58

i used to game on my I5 2400 with Intel HD 2000 on beamng

08:58

it worked on 800x600 wasnt too bad either

i mean idc if it can run it

09:00

it would be cool tho

09:01

if it can't run minecraft than it's diffrent situation

09:01

I will look for a gpu maybe

09:01

I saw gtx 560 for 25€

560 is pretty decent

09:03

should be better than the IGPU anyway

maybe

Windows Vista sample pictures

Windows_Vista.rar

4.42 MB

mjdxp pinned a message to this channel. 18/06/2021 09:32

Deleted User

I saw gtx 560 for 25€

Get it

14:45

560 is a good Vista card

what about xp?

25 euros is good given the mining shit

14:45

Yes

ok

Ffs a 980ti works with xp

14:45

Why wouldn't a 560?

so it should work with 2000 and newer

Yes

ok

Don't let that go for 25 euros

sorry I have to

14:56

I don't have money for a computer

that's not cheap but neither pricey, just the fair price

yes

14:57

I don't have to buy exactly 560

14:57

I can buy something else

there are often 650s for that same price

14:58

which typically performs better, and has had driver support until now

it depends on the country

that is also true

town too

its hard to find deals on GPU's rn i'd wait until pricing goes back to normal to get the best deal

the quesrion is when

yep

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284335443336 Bought this for my vista PC

EVGA e-GeForce 8600 GT 256MB, 2x DVI, 1x TV Out | eBay

Tested as working.

I have an 8600gt, but it has ddr2 memory (512mb)

nice better than my 256 here

is yours ddr2 or gddr3?

i think its GDDR3 but it could be DDR2

yours is ddr3

07:07

so I think it will be more powerful than my 8600gt

true but less vram so newer games wont like it at all

07:08

they made a 1GB version but i havent seen one

10:06

I always thought there was little to no difference between SKUs in Windows

10:09

Vista RTM only lasted 3-4 years...

Deleted User

Vista RTM only lasted 3-4 years...

That was a lot actually.

10:17

Windows 8.0 lasted 4 years too

Oh yeah, from 2012 to 2016

https://design.iconfactory.com/microsoft-windows-vista-icon-suite/

Microsoft Windows Vista • Iconfactory Portfolio

We were charged to design the prototypes that would become the fundamental visual building blocks of the Microsoft Windows Vista icon suite. Building on the groundbreaking work we had done for Microsoft’s Windows XP icon suite, the Iconfactory once again worked hand in hand with the design team in Redmond to help design the look […]

18:48

For those that don't know, these guys made the Vista icons, as well as XP icons

Their portfolio definitely looks like freelance work grouped together. Not a bad thing but at least tell the name of said artist in each of the pieces. (edited)

they're really nice though

Yeah, it's just a nitpick at this point.

What can I say about Windows Vista?

13:19

It's a very good operating system for laptops and computers from 2006 to 2009.

13:20

Also can be used for modern laptops and PCs if you find modded drivers or something

you can use pc's from around 2013 ish comfy on vista

Indeed

Windows Vista HOME PREMIUM YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8 8XPM9-7F9HD-4JJQP-TP64Y-RPFFV 6F2D7-2PCG6-YQQTB-FWK9V-932CC Windows Vista BUSINESS 72PFD-BCBK8-R7X4H-6F2XJ-VVMP9 TGHPJ-YX9JH-D899M-Y7JDR-WD2TK Windows Vista ULTIMATE D37CFH-TTN5V-BTBHD-H345M2-VWV90 6F2D7-2PCG6-YQQTB-FWK9V-932CC YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8

nice

I mean, they are really out there on online pastebins and such. There's no shortage of them.

Of course, I'm just leaving them here so people don't have to search for them if they want to install the ExKernel Vista ISO's.

Ah, well thanks regardless.

ApertureSketch

Windows Vista HOME PREMIUM YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8 8XPM9-7F9HD-4JJQP-TP64Y-RPFFV 6F2D7-2PCG6-YQQTB-FWK9V-932CC Windows Vista BUSINESS 72PFD-BCBK8-R7X4H-6F2XJ-VVMP9 TGHPJ-YX9JH-D899M-Y7JDR-WD2TK Windows Vista ULTIMATE D37CFH-TTN5V-BTBHD-H345M2-VWV90 6F2D7-2PCG6-YQQTB-FWK9V-932CC YFKBB-PQJJV-G996G-VWGXY-2V3X8

discord tos gone smokingglock

Oh dear. People be trying yo activate an EoL OS. Whatever must we do

16:00

16:00

look. i am a ocean sailor myself and even if this server is in grey area i am pretty sure someone is willing to report this server to discord and i am pretty damn sure they dont care if its a cd key of some eol os or some other dead shit (edited)

Same ^

16:03

Want me to do the dishonor and have it walk the plank?

nah its fine. just let it get buried to time

I'm a bit of a seafarer myself, but I realize publicly hosting that shit can get ya into some hot water. This shouldn't... But Discord & Furry Friends no havey brains

lodocus

nah its fine. just let it get buried to time

Fair enough

also id recommend everyone to just act like its not actually what it is etc to play a lil safe

But for anyone next time. Maybe instead of copying in plaintext, perhaps hint where you found it

16:07

Or link to a pastebin directly if you want to be a little more bold

16:07

Just try and be a little discrete

pastebin is blocked in my country biden

but i can use tor or proxysite to bypass the block so its fine for me

Yeh

wait posting product keys is against discord tos?

16:08

16:08

TIL

pretty sure yes

lol, discord gotta ban BW then

Vista Vienna Enterprise x64 Key: 666-666-666-669

16:09

There I just broke ToS

CKY24-Q8QRH-X3KMR-C6BCY-T847Y

16:10

longhorn key

docR

There I just broke ToS

gets shot by a projectile coming from the window the second later *

(edited)

TCP8W-T8PQJ-WWRRH-QH76C-99FBW

Betajyst4094

TCP8W-T8PQJ-WWRRH-QH76C-99FBW

memorized

19:27

at one point i was beginning to memorize 2 keys

Betajyst4094

TCP8W-T8PQJ-WWRRH-QH76C-99FBW

this is a longhorn key

19:36

i memorized it from the internet

What can I say about Windows Vista? It's a very good operating system for laptops and computers from 2006 to 2009.

yes

22:05

Vista based

22:06

I was thinking about using it with no extended kernel

22:06

it would be same as XP

Deleted User

I was thinking about using it with no extended kernel

not really lol

22:25

wrong message bruv

Deleted User

it would be same as XP

this

22:25

windows vista has way better compatibility even vanilla

22:25

and it has dx 11

22:25

yes

22:26

you can even run GTA V

22:26

I don't think that's the case anymore

22:26

at least with the legal version

22:27

lol

Deleted User

windows vista has way better compatibility even vanilla

vista can run ripcord, checkmate xp users

ah

22:32

didn't know that

22:33

I should try Vista

22:33

I was thinking about doing an upgrade

22:33

and not a clean install

22:34

I am lazy to reinstall everything tbh

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

vista can run ripcord, checkmate xp users

Technically you can run it on NT 5.2 XP

only on x64

23:44

well

23:44

ripcord is x64 only

23:44

ok yeah i suppose that's true but vista can run it stock

Fair Point, guessing if you extend NT 5.2 it will have the same compatibility as stock Vista.

23:47

But the Vista ExKernel is going really strong right now, win32 is a genius.

I actually forgot that I wanted to install X64 Vista on XP X86

14:47

I won't install Vista

14:47

I will install it some other time

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

vista can run ripcord, checkmate xp users

22:15

𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙆𝘾𝙝𝙚𝙙𝙙𝙮⭐

Click to see attachment 🖼️

fake

22:16

8gb ram on 32 bit xp

32 bit xp's max is 128GB

22:17

with PAE

yeah

22:21

PAE's kinda unstable tho

it's not in my experience

22:24

I have no issues with it

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

8gb ram on 32 bit xp

Ximonite

I have no issues with it

try haswell + usb3 + pae (edited)

22:25

pain

22:27

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

how

22:27

and why is the dip high

22:27

dpi*

I always use 125% dpi

you are insane

he is a 1080p gamer lol

you dont need a higher dpi ever

22:28

unless you have a 4k monitor in 27 inches

1. I like low res size of things 2. I need it for accessability reasons

2. are you blind

22:28

1. why

22:29

i always have zoom set to 80% or 67% on shit i use

I used to use laptop with 1366x768 for 5 years

22:29

I got used to the size

so did i

not really comfortable with small windows

i like every pixel being 1 pixel

22:29

not 0.75

22:30

or 2 pixels

if I was to say negative it's that icons become worse and some programs break

22:30

also on 10 there is the blurry window bug

22:31

I like bigger res size of things

22:31

more things fit to the screen

22:32

I don't like it it's so hard for me to see stuff

22:32

and I prefer it being huge

22:32

I would use low res if it wasn't for it looking like ass on LCD

22:32

lol

22:33

as for why I use 32 bit instead of 64 bit XP

22:33

I couldn't for the life of me get 64 bit to work

22:33

I tried like every unofficial AHCI driver it just blue screened

22:34

XP x64 is really underdeveloped (edited)

22:34

just like Vista in its first days

22:34

I mean yeah but 32 bit causes issues

22:34

like it keeps freezing for example

22:35

it's not unusable but the performance is just too bad

Yeah, general known incompatibility of processors and all that.

what cpu @Deleted User ?

But yes, 64 is just pointless and at this point, you would want to use something newer like vista.

Deleted User

what cpu @Deleted User ?

https://valid.x86.fr/u62g8t

Intel Core i5 6400 @ 3100 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[u62g8t] Validated Dump by Daniel7689 (2021-06-28 00:36:01) - MB: Gigabyte H110M-S2PV DDR3-CF - RAM: 8192 MB

22:36

But yes, 64 is just pointless and at this point, you would want to use something newer like vista.

shhh, someone might see (edited)

22:36

6th gen

22:36

oof

22:37

as for viiista there is another issue that is even worse than 32 bit XP

22:37

the PC I am planing to buy is gonna be i5 3550

22:37

it does install just fine without mods but once you're in it's ooof

22:37

the mouse moves slowly and sometimes bugs out and starts teleporting and opening shit (edited)

22:37

there is also the skylake bug where it sometimes fucks up and doesn't boot properly

22:38

old os on a really late hardware is really unstable

22:38

7-10 works fine

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

oo nice

22:38

that's why I like older hardware

22:38

and in XP there isn't the vista problems

22:38

alright

22:39

I think it's the dumb hal

22:39

I wish XP Professional X64 was more supported (edited)

22:39

also I wouldn't say my hardware is really that new my CPU is from 2015 lol

22:39

still late

Deleted User

as for viiista there is another issue that is even worse than 32 bit XP

Yes that haswell stuff and the ones above it too.

2015 is new for hardware still

22:40

hardware-wise we've evolved a solid like year and a half since 2015

ya

22:41

I like that Audi 81 doesn't want a new PC

22:41

I don't even have TPM

22:41

like at all

22:41

I am this old

22:41

I like that Audi 81 doesn't want a new PC

he said 3rd gen i7 and gtx 970

22:41

not old enough for IDE support tho

22:42

:/

22:42

the option is there but it just lists AHCI and nothing else

22:42

I hate Windows 11 compatability

22:43

killing 32bit platform is bad

Deleted User

killing 32bit platform is bad

dude it's only killing the 32 bit version of windows

22:43

but TPM 2.0 is next level

22:43

you can still run 32 bit programs

22:44

let's be real there is no human on earth with 32 bit PC that meets the windows 11 requirements

22:44

but a lot of cpus won't support windows 11 rtm

22:44

microsoft is a trash company

22:44

these days

It's a weird move to make but it's not out of reason. It's just a ridiculous scale.

eh

Deleted User

dude it's only killing the 32 bit version of windows

fuck 32 bit

a LOT of people are still perfectly fine on Windows 7

and vista

and XP

22:45

yes

22:46

I wish Vista was released some other time later

Deleted User

let's be real there is no human on earth with 32 bit PC that meets the windows 11 requirements

11 doesn't have 32 bit support

22:46

this is better than windows 11

22:46

64 bit only (edited)

22:47

ya

22:47

we said that

22:47

of course i mean in terms of system not apps. 32 bit apps still run based on WoW64

Deleted User

11 doesn't have 32 bit support

bruh I was making argument as to why there is no 32 bit version why would microsoft waste their time

noone with a 32 bit pc should be running windows 10 let alone windows 11

I was already wtfing at windows 10 having 32 bit version

22:48

ah lol i didn't read the entire discussion sorry

22:48

my new PC will most likely have Windows 8.1

good

kinda tired of 7 tbh

8.1 is the ebst

22:48

best

yes

vista is the best if you can run it

yes I can

do it

:/

22:49

I don't feel like it :(

22:49

for now at least

22:50

just use longhorn on the edge every day

22:51

I know Windows 11 will be hated quite a lot when it will be released

22:51

just like Vista

22:51

"it runs android apps doe!1!1!1"

22:51

reqires decent hardware

Actually, more so like a high hardware.

yes

Almost all of them are in-demand ~~and't~~ and* be bought easily anymore. (edited)

AND'T?

"I am gonna to my house" -rexolr (edited)

22:54

a guy from the other server

My bad, sorry about that. In any case, yes. Those last gen cpus are very damn rare to come by now.

22:55

Throwing that much under the bus really, doesn't sound like a good idea at all. Especially first gen ryzen, yes it wasn't perfect but it's still new.

everyone has now to use old and insecure windows 10 smh my head Microsoft worse than hitler

22:56

I will buy an intel computer because that's more common here and I know bit more about those

22:57

I am not so familiar with AMD

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

noone with a 32 bit pc should be running windows 10 let alone windows 11

amazing argument

03:33

and i agree with you

03:33

you are based

Based

People that have 32 Bit in general should use Linux or ChromeOS, eh unless you don't mind using 2000 or XP.

people with 32 bit computers live in third world countries and should use xp like everyone in a third world country usually does

As a Moldovian I can't agree more, most people used to have 32 Bit PC's and I've never seen anything else on them except XP, thankfully we live in a time where you could still use it for almost anything you need

ApertureSketch

People that have 32 Bit in general should use Linux or ChromeOS, eh unless you don't mind using 2000 or XP.

ChromeOS hasn't supported 32bit for a very long time

Scamdisk

ChromeOS hasn't supported 32bit for a very long time

its just gentoo and open source, i'm sure you can compile it

yeah, but you know, chrome on anything that isn't Windows doesn't support 32bit

Scamdisk

yeah, but you know, chrome on anything that isn't Windows doesn't support 32bit

again, its open source

19:14

just compile it

Google's red tape

Scamdisk

Google's red tape

wat

Google makes it harder to revert this stuff

21:58

I was talking with a developer of a Chromium fork about it

Michael

wat

Yes, google's design decisions doesn't allow for much chaning unless you want to overhaul entire portions of the program.

22:00

That's why you don't see chromium with different UIs as often as it requires a ton of work be dumped on it. At least vivaldi doesn't look like the other chromium forks which is something to be at least proud of. (edited)

I like Brave's interface myself

02:38

'far as the chromes go

07:56

ic ant fuckin

07:56

change the clock skin

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County so close but so far

06:48

the original installer is also in the folder

Internet goes nuts in 6.1 appverified installers

07:08

Same issue with y8 browser

Yeah but what about the file i have in the same folder?

07:45

It wont pick up the installer file

That's app verifier for ya

07:46

Only benefit is that it tricks the installer

07:46

But several bugs occur

WinDVD

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County so close but so far

its bugged

07:51

dev wont gix it cuz 7+ :(

I don't see why they need to fully block install instead of say.. Giving a warning

it's unintentional afaik

is bulldozer compatible with vista?

22:31

might try to fix the cursed pc by putting a bulldozer motherboard in it

well replacing cpu and motherboard might fix it

22:34

i think bulldozer is compatible with vista but the best way to know is to try it out

cpu is good mobo is bad but my idea is to just get a cheap hp replacement motherboard and cpu for the newest possible bulldozer config i can

are the caps bad? or is it some weird issue

no idea caps all look good

hmmm

basically between like 2 months ago and a year ago something happened to the pc that fucks up windows installs

22:36

tested with 7, vista, and server 2008, installs all bsod at some point

22:36

the disk population in setup is super slow

22:36

and the only thing that fixes the bsod is after installation putting driver verifier on the keyboard driver

22:37

but it still is a little off

22:37

like application verifier wouldn't run right

22:37

i think it's a bad usb controller

hmm dunno its a strange issue

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is bulldozer compatible with vista?

Uhm. Yes

00:38

Lol

00:39

There was a patch for 7+ that fixed an issue with core parking but.. The issue was 7-exclusive to begin with lol

00:39

Bulldozer/FX is perfect for Vista, and even XP and 2k

00:39

Knew many people with it. Closest I used was FM2+ tho

FX are weird as hell

Believe it or not I have nostalgia of using Windows Vista in 2009-2010

14:05

Playing games like sims 2, spider man 2, monster trucks nitro

14:05

Yes the shitty kiddie pc game of spider man 2 (edited)

14:05

Not the superior console game

The gamecube version of that game is still one of my favorites

Sadly never was born in a time where Vista would be used on anything, but I think I'm part of a big majority that still has nostalgia for 7.

docR

The gamecube version of that game is still one of my favorites

It’s one of the best movie tie-in games

Oh absolutely

17:34

I still play it

serjG

Playing games like sims 2, spider man 2, monster trucks nitro

sims 2

17:42

based

I once played a bit of it on an emulator

18:57

I think PS2 one

18:57

Pretty good

stellar

sims 2

My sister loved playing the sims 2 at her cousin’s house

18:57

It might be the first video game I ever played

never really liked the console versions of the sims. sim games never really transfer well to consoles

i do the thing

19:03

it tecnically should run bcse it is core i5 3550

19:03

and i have drivers for my gpu

sims 2 ds tho

19:10

is the shit

Sims 2 psp is a fucking story game

09:13

vista working as intended

working as wintended

imagine widewine on vista

and then it says OS X 10.11 El Capitan or higher (edited)

16:08

widewine supports windows versions as far back as windows vista but google couldnt do that for older OS X versions than el capitan

It works btw

Biggest pile of bs I've stepped on

not ENTIRELY bullshit

Yeah, not entirely

No way it's slower

2021 vmware drivers work via manual install

00:25

the inf file legit supports vista by default but the installer doesnt

00:26

just tested and DX 11 now works

Why running vmware 16 in the first place

00:27

It's the worst version of vmware

dark mode tbh

dark mode for worst compability

and DX 11 ofc lol

Sounds like a deal

you can set vm compatibility mode and ive had no issues

(except for the setup)

well i use windows 10 ltsc so ill be fine

00:29

i use 15 on my windows 7 install though

I use the better version

00:30

12.4.5

ok

00:30

well i like DX 10 and 11 support so

00:30

video_wddm.7z

13.04 MB

00:30

^ is the extracted driver for vista

WinDVD

2021 vmware drivers work via manual install

Wait so you can add the Windows 7 VMware SVGA 3D Card onto Vista if you use Application Verifier on the Setup?

nope manual install only

00:30

they never removed vista support from the driver itself

00:30

still says NT 6.0 in it

00:30

only the installer itself

00:31

is 7 only

Why wanting directX 11 on a vm without an undipendented gpu

basically, install vista vmware tools and then update the driver to the DX 11 driver with device manager

It sounds pointless

and another thing, it actually recognizes the amount of vram i set now with this driver

00:32

before it said 64 mb

DirectX 11 will open a lot of possibilites for Vista, and I already have some ideas right now.

someone should pin this

00:33

lol

On a vm?

00:33

i mean testing surr

00:33

Sure

00:33

For actually work? How

yeah real hardware will be a lot better but for people who dont have vista compatible systems

Actually wait a second, do you think the VMware SVGA Card from XP will work on 2000 if you manually install it?

its nice to have DX 11 and more than 64MB VRAM

00:34

lol

I really need to know this

dx 11 on a normal vm is like giving a new born a mansion

WinDVD

yeah real hardware will be a lot better but for people who dont have vista compatible systems

Probably kvm is the better solution than running dx11 programs on vmware shrugs

ApertureSketch

Actually wait a second, do you think the VMware SVGA Card from XP will work on 2000 if you manually install it?

you will need to mod the inf and change [Manufacturer.NTx86] to [Manufacturer]

00:36

but its worth a shot

00:37

btw you can fix the bugs with 3D not working on 2k if thats what you mean

00:37

set vm compatibility to 8 or 9

WinDVD

you will need to mod the inf and change [Manufacturer.NTx86] to [Manufacturer]

On it, I want to get this working since you can actually change VRam amounts on XP Cards and I'm tired of being stuck with 32MB.

00:38

VMware should've fixed this a long time ago

it will probably not work

00:38

all the xp driver mods i tried either didnt load or caused BSOD, though i only tried 2 devices

VMware what's the reason behind you doing this pepe_cringed

blackwingcat is good with XDDM

07:59

but he only speaks japanese geck

07:59

learn 4th language? /s

i mean youve been watching japanese cartoons arent you supposed to know how to speak japanese by now? /j

nah he watches chinese cartoons /s

they actually exist y'know

09:35

it's called something other than anime

09:35

i forgot what

Deleted User

it's called something other than anime

there is actual chinese anime bru

09:41

wat

09:41

yeah first time I found out I was the same

Ximonite

but he only speaks japanese geck

:(

18:28

he would fit well to the server

Need win vista mod

02:41

Can someone please send me a link

02:41

Please

?

iamgay

Need win vista mod

what do you mean

I want windows vista mod

02:55

Like windows 2007

why not just use windows vista?

I’m feel..don’t like them

03:00

But I don’t want now

iamgay

Like windows 2007

Unfortunately, mods aren't common for this OS.

Yup

03:03

Ik

03:04

Emao what I am said? @MassClaw

Hm?

Oops wrong ping person

03:05

LOL

03:05

Omfg how the hell..

It's fine, in any case, wish i can point you to those but you probably know them all and there isn't- wait. (edited)

?

Nevermind that project got cancelled.

But did you have some of iso?

03:07

Or no

Unfortunately not.

Oh

03:07

I may find on archives.org

03:07

Cuz I see before

If i had it, i would've probably sent it here by now but no.

Okay okay thanks for ur help

03:08

I have some project in the feature

03:08

I mean I goona made a custom vista os

03:09

Called windows blues

Nice, hope you the best of luck.

1

Well I try to use ntlite

03:10

But bad luck

Early steps.

No

03:11

My pc storage

03:11

Is full

03:11

lol

Ouch.

MassClaw

Early steps.

I will watch mjd video

03:13

But how can I get VMware 12 workstation product key for free

03:13

Mum and dad they not allowed me buy that

Ah, there are hundreds of them on the web, one sec.

1

Thanks you!

03:14

Np, in any case that should get you going.

?

Lmao

01:38

Nothing

Oh, ok then.

I’m just making my first custom os with my friends

01:58

It called windows blues

01:59

@MassClaw I go now cya

Ah, sure enough.

@MassClaw

07:38

Guess the name of this OS

07:38

Vista

vista beta 2

That's final Vista for sure

14:26

but skinned

iamgay

Guess the name of this OS

Not sure where to begin for guess but longhorn is in it i suppose?

Vista with a beta 2-inspired theme

Latest AGESA version is working on vista

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i made it and modified the assets by using Paint.net

nice

i need vista ultimate key

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NOW

There's an excellent internet service that helps you find anything you want

ok found one

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let's see if it works

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it worked

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fuckfarts

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I got 0x80070070 error

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I used vista with ex kernel v6 iso

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people say it's iso problem

Installing from usb? used rufus?

yes

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rufus

Use WinNTSetup

it's GPT only it seems

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or at least, how can I make it MBR there

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easily

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in that menu, you select MBR (win XP)

Betajyst4094

Use WinNTSetup

Yup

serjG

I got 0x80070070 error

classic error

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Am I the only one that doesn't get this idea of online test-driving...

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no it really sounds fun tbh

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imagine trying the best windows version for the first time

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on your xp pc in a sim

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and of course the virtual tour doesn't work.

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Wayback Machine limits...

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Using basic....

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I hate that website

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Use aero goddamn it

I hate it too since it was ahead of it's time

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Wait a second... what is that?

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A camera put into a USB stick-type form factor

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rule 9 no advertising lqtroll

/s

Yes, not surprisingly as bulky is the theme of stuff from the 90s and 00s.

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not bad 7.6mp

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how expensive would it be tho

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kinda superior for the time

The s2 had 8mp

https://web.archive.org/web/20070703205836mp_/http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/04/Aero/default.aspx a certainly interesting page about Windows Aero

Deleted User

how expensive would it be tho

You will find the price... yesterday.

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lol

Deleted User

https://web.archive.org/web/20070703205836mp_/http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/04/Aero/default.aspx a certainly interesting page about Windows Aero

interesting indeed

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That's fun though!

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Wait a second... what is that?

Microsoft: Your potential. Our passion.(tm) (edited)

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woah

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send app

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lol

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reminds me of wmp

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I have downloaded the sample code...

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...but none of it is compiled.

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sad

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well it's for devs so

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Yup

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wish they used aero more tho

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As if it wasn't obvious that it was SETTINGS

Deleted User

wish they used aero more tho

Same here

Deleted User

As if it wasn't obvious that it was SETTINGS

inb4 the file has a section named [SETTINGS] as well KEKW

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2nd shot of what?

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vaccine

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nah, a second bullet ofc

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cos apple would give you the first one

Deleted User

cos apple would give you the first one

you'd have to pay 999$ for it tho

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It's certified by Microsoft!

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Directions to failure.

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lmfaoo (edited)

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It's urgent!

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Total access to nothing...

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powered by live search

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it's clear why live search failed

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and it transformed to Bing

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Mmm, Zune

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Seriously?

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You could do all this in XP with third-party software

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but vista > xp

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That price isn't justified

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-oof

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that's very high

Deleted User

That price isn't justified

Basically the entire vista campaign in a few words.

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vista tablets

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Oh, so that's what it's supposed to be (edited)

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I never knew!

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they're mostly rare (edited)

Deleted User

I never knew!

don't think it works with modern phones

Deleted User

Oh, so that's what it's supposed to be (edited)

Yes, this was the boom of ipods and music players at the time.

I love misplaced screenshots

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MS Flight Simulator X couldn't be more exciting!

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lmfaooo

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i think the caption is bugged not the image

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based on logic

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Wanna... business?

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Oh, so that's what that was supposed to look like

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I love the look

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basically MS Teams

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someone tried to get windows meeting space working on newer windows versions

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didn't succeed

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Of course

Deleted User

basically MS Teams

Still a hog of space on the side, so basically the DNA of Teams is there too. (edited)

iirc it has a complex sku check which is why it doesn't work on newer windows (edited)

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I doubt the servers for it are up

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you don't need servers if you use lan

Deleted User

I doubt the servers for it are up

Pretty sure that's not a server and client model. Not how calls work. (edited)

yeah it's p2p unlike teams

Deleted User

you don't need servers if you use lan

Oh yes, whoopsies

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BTW, now it's eye-popping

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it was meant to replace netmeeting

Deleted User

BTW, now it's eye-popping

how's ms flight sim related to vista tho

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It was released at the time

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when Vista was relevant!

That's the problem, vista's marketing was all over the place. And then windows live came. (edited)

Yup

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And these requirements were high in 2007?

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yes

Deleted User

And these requirements were high in 2007?

On a minimum scale, yes. It's basically what happens with 11 now. Except 11 doesn't even deserve any of it of course. (edited)

besides 512mb on vista is shit

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even for home basic

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System requirements for Windows Vista Ultimate

MassClaw

On a minimum scale, yes. It's basically what happens with 11 now. Except 11 doesn't even deserve any of it of course. (edited)

except for a fact that the major world economic cysis happened with vista's release, unlike now. yeah the hw market is suffering a bit but people'll mostly buy new pcs and move on (edited)

That's out of the question, but at least vista had a reason, 11 does not in the slightest. (edited)

fair

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I would like Home Basic to Home Premium, please.

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i would like enterprise and kms pls

vista with extended kernel you say?

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naw

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

vista with extended kernel you say?

what is that?

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inb4 you're stuck in 2007

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That didn't last long AT ALL

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lmfao

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sad

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Are you ready for some junk?

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at least they didn't say "have tpm? upgrade. don't have it? fuck you buy a new PC"

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At least they didn't...

It still was the building ground for that so fuck it too.

fuck off windows vista

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whats the permission

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windows vista wont tell you cuz fuck you, you need permission

Close related processes

or take ownership

Me: Hey Windows Vista, what permission do i need to move a file or a folder? Windows Vista: FUCK OFF! YOU NEED PERMISSION TO PERFORM THIS ACTION!

7 8.1 and 10 do that too

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take ownership and give yourself all perms

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

Me: Hey Windows Vista, what permission do i need to move a file or a folder? Windows Vista: FUCK OFF! YOU NEED PERMISSION TO PERFORM THIS ACTION!

Looks like you only used XP

7 8.1 and 10 do that too

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County but those OSes say what program prevents you from deleting a file or a folder

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vista straight up doesnt say what program it is

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

7 8.1 and 10 do that too

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County but those OSes say what program prevents you from deleting a file or a folder

not for me

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8.1 doesn't say it

like does it say "the file is open in..." or smth

Sometimes does sometimes doesn't

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Just like vista

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

like does it say "the file is open in..." or smth

Nope thats only for single files

f

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

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Vista voted for Biden. Cope biden

NO

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NOOO

docR

Vista voted for Biden. Cope biden

no

Vista gives no shit about politics

vista supports vermin supreme

vista pc CPU is now gamer

what is the aspect ratio? (edited)

16:9 1366x768

why does it say 1360 then?

dunno its wont let me set it to 1366 on this pc

okay?

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weird

but on other pc's it defaults to 1366x768

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and has no option for 1360

also pentium d is a nice cpu lmao

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gta v performance are better than on p4

yee upgraded it from 2.8 ghz pentium D to 3.4ghz

only problem are temps

im talking from it now lol

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the stock dell cooler does well

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good temps

nice

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people keep blaming on p4 and pentium d, while their cooler

the upgrade had a die shrink so probably better temps even with more GHZ

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yeah the stock intel cooler sucked

it sucks now

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its even worse than then

insert always has been meme here lmao

Deleted User

people keep blaming on p4 and pentium d, while their cooler

p4 and pentium d were unefficient so temps would be high still

ye

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but the cooler is still the one that sucks

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also pentium d is a nice cpu lmao

not nice

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i heard stories of pentium d's getting so hot motherboards would warp

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over time

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we DO blame the processors

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because they were inefficient

well my motherboard aint warping or getting super hot lol

That's great

yeah glad i dont have a flipphone instead of a motherboard lol

Now what is that supposed to mean?

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Oh, I get it now

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xD

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Look at that special WinVista UMPC UI

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aww umpcs

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always wanted one

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April 2003

lol

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the name vista was put for windows in 2005 or so iirc

damn they in the future out here

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The "WOW" starts now!

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uh... UMPCs technically has full OS experience like OQO Model 02 being the smallest Windows Vista PC ever

ah yes the thingy that struggles copying the files

8.1 keeps pissing me off wityh this shitty ass disk usage

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how bas is using vista on a 4th gen intel cpu

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@Ximonite you've used vista on a newer intel cpu right

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what happens

it's painful

@docR has used it on a 4th gen intel cpu

on a 4th gen shit can go wrong

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i have

@docR what goes wrong

sometimes the OS downright doesn't boot

i have an i5 4590 and i'm done with 8.1

sometimes it boots, but displays an error at login and doesn't play orb animation

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and sound dies very fast

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it just dies, the audio service disables itself

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and sometimes stuff don't open due to a random error that i can't remember, such as device manager

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and sometimes OS boots in 800x600 res and no themes

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The words "Haswell" and "Windows Vista" don't go together

and this is all the hal causing it?

yes

ximo pls make vista hal 4th gen intel pls

you can delete intelppm.sys from %windir%\system32\drivers, fixes some of the problems

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not all of them tho

what problems occur with that deleted

program opening

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mostly that

had that issue with the cursed pc

welp, that's it i think

the build 6003 hal fixes a few haswell+ bugs (not all of them)

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skylake with the build 6003 hal and no intelppm is actually semi-usable

the worst thing for haswell on vista are the drivers

Deleted User

the worst thing for haswell on vista are the drivers

my gpu is an hd 5670 and i don't need cpu or mobo drivers

nice

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now about bugs

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just install 6003 patch

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almost said 4006 for some reason

is there an iso with the patches integrated

from scamdisk?

igh

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ig*

for me vista runs flawlessly on ivy bridge

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on a new install at least (edited)

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didnt use it for much

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it should be fine

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

@docR what goes wrong

here we go again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXh3lK5W2zA

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only alternative i have rn is to pop a new hdd in the xp lenovo pc and use vista on 2gb of ram and a pentium dual core

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with a gts 240 that's bottlenecked the shit out of and runs at 70 degrees because the case sucks

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but i'd like to have a usable pc

id like to have a good power supply and an ssd in my pc

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and dvd rw

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but no money atm

@win32 i will give you a good high five if you fix hal

i will give u a good high five when u add windows 7 driver support to vista (edited)

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good luck with that one

fuck 7 driver support

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i can live on older computer hardware

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i just need to run vista on newer cpus

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

fuck 7 driver support

how about no

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you want mass vista usage? (edited)

11:28

then that's the start point

Yes.

true but also old hardware based

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

true but also old hardware based

i wouldn't mind a thinkpad t420 or t430 but i wouldn't use one as main because their hardware is a bit too old and becoming slow

not slow

it depends

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i'd definitely use one to go around when i'm not home or when i'm in bed

I could use 3rd gen, but no older

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I really like 4th, especially Haswell-E

ivy bridge is an overkill

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for older operating systems like windows xp and vista (edited)

Who said XP

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This is Vista channel

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Vista doesn't like to play nice with fewer than 2 cores and 4 gigs of RAM. XP can sort of get by on a P3 with 512 mb

true

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xp can get on a p2 as well

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and 256mb of ram

docR

Vista doesn't like to play nice with fewer than 2 cores and 4 gigs of RAM. XP can sort of get by on a P3 with 512 mb

vista can work with 1.5gb of ram

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i've done it on vms

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even with exkernel and firefox

of course it can lol

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just need to tweak your usage

xp can run on a pentium 1 and 128mb ram

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winflp can run on 64

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don't think it can run on a 486 tho

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maybe on a pentium overdrive (which fit in 486 sockets)

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then i mixed up someting

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anyways, i have a 98pc that has pentium 2 and 128mb ram

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why?

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ah

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compaq deskpro (edited)

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it has windows xp sp2 on it rn

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it just sits in my other house

Vruh 2

vista can work with 1.5gb of ram

with some tweaking, yes. if 32-bit

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well ideally 32-bit

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look i've been on vista and 7 since 2012

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32bit is okay with 2, with good settings and aero

he said exkernel tho so he definately meant 64bit

64-bit screams 4 if you don't want to trim it down and sanitize all the eyecandy

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with sacrifices, yes

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serious sacrifices

i've used 64 bit windows on 2gb of ram, yes it's a pain

its curel and unnusual punishment

memory usage idling is about 70%

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well didn't have a better choice tbh

it shouldn't ideal at 70, but it will idle at 70 once you pop open a browser

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and this was in 2014

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yeah i didn't either

my OS was shit, 70% without anything open

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i didn't know much at the time so i couldn't reinstall

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i've had to use IE

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because it was lightweight

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imagine

yeah idk what you did then, sounds like some funky bg processes

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but yeah it isn't fun either way

probably

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windows wasn't that optimized on my PC yeah

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it came like that

you mean it was oem install?

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bruh

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never use those

true that

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like i said i was inexperienced

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so didn't know

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that's like 6 or 7 years ago

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i was what, 10 at the time?

Oh my lol

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Could've led with that ;p

Has anyone got Windows Meeting Space to work?

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I have tried it with someone earlier today through an invitation file and it didn't work

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it works locally iirc

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not over the internet

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I guess the servers for that are down

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Yep

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I can't see the point of it working locally

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if you're already near that person, why not go talk to him

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and have a live meeting instead

docR

64-bit screams 4 if you don't want to trim it down and sanitize all the eyecandy

and then there was that one guy running retail 64-bit vista in virtual pc x86 emulation on a powermac g5 in 2008

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with like 256mb ram allocated

06:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhzPY6mlOGY

PwrMacBlog

Windows Vista on a Power Mac G5

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this wasnt even a fast g5 either, it was a dual 1.8ghz with 2gb ram

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the original 2003 model

Michael

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhzPY6mlOGY

wtf

Michael

and then there was that one guy running retail 64-bit vista in virtual pc x86 emulation on a powermac g5 in 2008

eh

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its a vm

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it is not IMPOSSIBLE

Michael

and then there was that one guy running retail 64-bit vista in virtual pc x86 emulation on a powermac g5 in 2008

x64 on x86

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probably it was x86 on x86 emulation

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x64 on x86 would be impossible lol

ye

ImSwordQueen

x64 on x86

no, g5's are 64-bit

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but im not sure cuz the macos userland typically runs in 32-bit mode on those anyways

Michael

no, g5's are 64-bit

and they're not x86

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they're ppc64

You said virtual pc x86

Windows Vista

Yup!

windows vista

the video gives no indication that the vista is x86 or x64. vpc on mac os died before x64 really became a thing, so it's x86

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if someone were to go to pwrmac.com and find the tutorial, we'd be sure

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http://web.archive.org/web/20090216173849/http://www.pwrmac.com/2008/10/29/vpc7_with_leopard_and_vista/

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"Eventually, most all Windows software will require Vista."

if vista came out when microsoft did the same thing with 10

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then it would've been liked somewhat

GHOST PING ! ! ! ! ! !

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sorry freedom

23:29

we're setting up a little bot game

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and we need to test it out until we get the intended result

ok

-brazil @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

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heh

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owned

pffft

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may want to server mute for like an hour mate

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so we dont keep pinging you lol

how

get rid of this 32-bit OS

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and replace it with the 64-bit one

does anybody have the x64 version that I can downloa

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download

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

WindowsVistax64Uptodate.iso

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@docR it was already pinned... also read #server-suggestions because it's about this channel

ocean man

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nooo

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@ImSwordQueen you should of said him to download vista with exkernel from scamdisk

21:06

whatever

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it will be easy to apply the extended kernel

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because that iso is uptodate

it depends on what edition he wants to run it on